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Q: can I get the work visa if I am not a native speaker?

5 years 51 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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I know that many people work with business or student visas in China. That is illegal but it happens all the time.

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Yeah i think depends where you are in China and who your employers are. I was at the visa office a few weeks ago renewing my sons visa and I met a guy from Ukraine and he just renewed his work visa for teaching English. He has his B rating card and a z resident permit. ... but they only gave him 6 months. I’m not sure why as he said his passport never expired for a few more years. 

 

I guess it just depends. I know some could not but this guy seemed too... even if it was for only 6 months.

Stiggs:

That sounds to me like his boss was able to pull some strings with his connections.

 

The way I understand it, even the good old guanxi system is getting to be less of an option now though. You might be able to get your mates in the PSB to look the other way when your teachers are working on student visas but actually getting NNS proper legal status is becoming near impossible. 

 

Or so I've heard.

 

 

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That could be the case. His boss was with him. He asking me if I was doing a work visa, I told him I’m only here for my sons q visa and he showed me his card and resident permit, it was legit . Although I don’t know if he had a degree from a native English country. I never asked him that. He said this was the first time he could only get 6 months instead of a year. And it’s jiangxi province too. So I’m not exactly sure what was going on. Although I hardly ever meet an native speakers here. Maybe 1 out of 5 .... and they all seem to be teaching English one way or another. 

 

I thiught non natives could not get legit work visas but I saw this with my own eyes. He said he has been working here for 4 years , I’m not sure every detail, but he is a non native with a work visa attached to a school. So I don’t know. This was only 3 weeks ago. 

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Well then I suppose he either had a degree from a native speaking country or the guanxi system still works with visas there.

 

Good for him, hope he makes the most of his six months because who knows if he'll be able to swing it again.

 

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He did not seem too optimistic about it. I kind of felt bad for him. I’m sure he will do what every other non native does and just work on a _____visa when this one up. It’s a shame really because his oral English was pretty good and hes been here for along time working legally....and now it seems like he’s fucked for the future. They should have grandfathered these people in who have been here and legally working before the new law came into effect . All it’s going to do is drive good people to work illegally. 

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Contact an employer in China and they will tell you right away (or a little bit later), if you qualify for Working permit as NNES.

As far as I know, you could get Working permit only if you hold degree completed in Native English country.

icnif77:

http://youcanteachenglish.com/teach-english-in-china-visa-requirements/

 

 

For a teacher to legally teach in China, you need a “Z” visa (for contracts of a year or more) or an “F” visa (for contracts of less than 6 months), and a Residence Permit.

The first thing that you should do is find an employer. They are responsible for obtaining a Foreign Experts Invitation Confirmation from the State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs on your behalf.. This certificate is necessary to prove that the foreign teacher coming to China is in the field of work for which he/she is applying. Once approved, your employer sends the certificate (original copy) to the foreign teacher. Then, the foreign teacher is required to visit the nearest Chinese embassy and present the certification and the invitation letter (from host school) to obtain  “Z” visa.

Your employer should also arrange for you to be provided with a Foreign Experts ID card. Again, this ID is issued by the State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs. With a Foreign Experts ID, the teacher is able to bring with them to China their personal necessities (books, newspapers, teaching notes, visual aids, samples, models and photographic slides, small instruments and special materials needed in research, teaching, experiments, etc.) with no charge. It is necessary to undergo a full health check before coming to China.

Once in China, you are required to visit the local Public Security Bureau for registration within 48 hours of your arrival. At this time, you need to show your Validation Certificate of Health Examination Record, which can be obtained by presenting your health examination certificate to local quarantine department. Your employer then registers your application for a Foreign Experts Certificate, together with the introduction letter from the school, “Z” visa (or a copy), and 2 photos. The certificate is good for up to one year. Renewal is necessary upon expiration and in the event of any change of work and/or employer, this certificate must be returned.

Your employer then assists you in obtaining a residence permit. If the job you are hired for has a contract of less than one month, you would receive a temporary residence permit. However, for those who intend to teach for more than a year, your host employer would help you apply for a residence permit.

With both the Foreign Experts certificate and the valid Health examination certificate, a foreign teacher will be issued a residence permit. Renewal or extension of visa is to be done at the public security bureau with your valid passport, residence permit and letter from the host institution.

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Can't be an English Teacher. If you specialize in another field like engineering sure go for it..

ScotsAlan:

Yup. Only English teaching jobs have the native speaker stipulation. And the requirement for a degree.

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no you can't. Only native speaker are allowed to settle in the middle kinggdom. Try with USA

ScotsAlan:

Technically, no foreigner is no allowed to settle here. Even the green card is for 10 years max. I think Edgar Snow is the only foreigner ever to have been given citizenship. 

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For what job? English teachers need to be native speakers to get the visa. 

Spiderboenz:

Not anymore. 

 

Now, they just have to have a degree from a Native English country, or (if they’re Filipino) be a certified teacher. 

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You must be from the US or Canada to be able to teach English legally here.

ScotsAlan:

Yeah... defo no English allowed... wow.

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You can  legally work in China as Non-native English teacher delivering classes online ...  ... without Working and Residence permit.

 

Am so smart ... 

BHGAL:

I survive here...  never worked an honest day of true WORK,  in my life.

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BuTT ... you don't qualify  'cause you are not Non-Native ...  

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