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This is my number one issue I think I have asked this before. The lack of spatial awareness drives me mad. Does it drive you mad?
No spatial awareness, I see people trying to park their car into obviously smaller spot everyday and failing and trying another spot. I see people bump into each others all the time on the street while not even staring at their phone. By the funniest is when your neighbors buy a new sofa / furniture and only realize that it won't fit in the elevator when they are here with their new piece of furniture, having to leave it in the lobby overnight and then call the moving guys with a rope to lift it to their balcony on the next day.
No awareness of space in general, be it physical or mental.
Mentally wise, no respect for personal space either. I don't mind being stuck like sardines in a can with other people on the subway or in an elevator, but i do mind when said people invade my personal space, stare at me like I can't see them or talk about me like I can't hear them or try really really hard to read my phone's screen with no respect for privacy whatsoever.
If you've ever watched people trying to park a car you'd have to say no.
Usually the driver has no idea how big the park is in relation to the car or where the sides of the car are and has to be guided into the park.
No, they certainly lack of SA. Just see, how they walk .... 'look L while moving R ....' I am like: 'MUUUU ...or 'HELLOOOU' just to make sound as 'I am here!'.
The most sti-pud is 'looking at the phone and walking'. You have to be 'bat' a bit to successfully avoid everything what's coming on your way.
And I won't mention bumping into me, while they pass. I mean, what's wrong with that?
In the beginning, I was thinking they want to sniff what cologne I'm wearing (girls), but then everybody does it.
In West, bumping into other person on the street is like 'invitation to fight', if no 'I am sorry!'.
BuTT...the most annoying is bumping into me with Super's trolley at the register. I am the last one in the queue, and next person's arriving to the queue bump into me with carriage. 'Are you BLIND?' or 'Am I invisible today?'
I really want to learn this two in Chinese!
I forgot one: 'escalator' - Why do they always stand at the exit of the escalator? They don't continue with walking, but as soon as they exit escalator they stop and talk ... They behave similar as I would behave first time on the Space ship .... They also like to have chat in the middle of the door ... So, should I wait till they chat-over, and then enter or exit ....s-l-o-w-l-y?.
earthizen:
Are you blind? is Nǐ xiāle ma? (written 你 瞎 了 吗?) Official version.
Pronounce as : Ni (you) Xia (blind) le ma (indicate question)?
Xia is produced as sar . Le is produced as la.
Shorter, colloquial version, Ni Xia le ?
The other one I have to ask someone.
icnif77:
Thanks for the Chinese, but Chinese never understand my Chinese talk. I just rage in English.
You know, I was seriously thinking why do they do that ('talking in the middle of the entrance/exit', 'stopping on the top of the escalator'), and the closest I could come is 'me, first time on the Space ship ...' ... you know, peeing into the espresso machine instead into the can .. and similar.
earthizen:
Poverty is also the mother of self-centeredness, in addition to other despicable mindsets. Getting richer doesn't automatically erase those mindsets .
icnif77:
I see last pic now. Who knows, what was cause to get onto the train through the windows. It happened to me in Bj in May 2012. I couldn't board the train for Urumqi on May holidays. 1/2 of the China wanted to travel to Xinjiang's direction, and I just stayed behind. They closed the access to rail with some 400 people (and me) left behind.
I might never been 'poor', but even if I would be, I'd realise with one look, that other people are coming up the escalator, and I can't stand on the top of it, but I must move further or step on the side, so other people can go 'somewhere', because thing is in constant move ...
I had thing yesterday, while exiting Wal-y: I entered it and it was packed, so I am going 'what day is today?' OK and I turned around and continue on 'esca-up'. In front of me 3 guys also exiting. As soon as they came up, they stopped and chat&light-up the fag. Me moving like 'Wayne Gretzky' ... some talk back in Chinese, and I short: 'Fuk-off' and exited the 'esca' with hockey moves... I was without milk in me fridge, so packed Wal-y made me 'exited without entering' and in bad mood, 'cause no milk for hong cha on Sunday...I'll have to try it again, today ...
earthizen:
"...but I must move further or step on the side, so other people can go 'somewhere', ..."
The majority of da lu ren would think, "only laowais would be so naive, anyone sane would burn the bridge after he crosses it and keep the newly acquired space all to himself!"
icnif77:
You cannot have sane excuse 'why stop as soon as you exit escalator'.
I mean, if you do have an excuse, it must be similar as color blind person say 'I see green, while looking at red ...'
One look over your shoulder tells you .... everything .
earthizen:
"Me moving like 'Wayne Gretzky' ... some talk back in Chinese, and I short: 'Fuk-off' and exited the 'esca' with hockey moves..."
Mastering da lu ren's way. See train photos above.
icnif77:
I am very gentle person , but foking escalator is- 'i-can't-breathe'-is moving.
I think, escalators in China should have an 'eject' button.....too..
... my mom would say: 'he can invent things ....' LOLOL
earthizen:
"You cannot have sane excuse 'why stop as soon as you exit escalator'."
Daluren : Are you insane? You have arrived, of course you stop and chat!"
"I mean, if you do have an excuse, it must be similar as color blind person say 'I see green, while looking at red ...'"
Daluren: This is the daluren way. We are strong. We are rich. You evil capitalist must be color blinded. Take a look at the color of our stock prices, red arrow means going up, green arrow means going down. See, you got it all wrong. Capitalism screwed your mind up completely!
icnif77:
you and me should go to PM and talk about investment into 'eject' button .... I am laughing so hard, I need masssage ....
Yeah, stay away from Chin-EX ....cause colours are wrong! LOLOLOLO
earthizen:
One look over your shoulder tells you .... everything
Daluren: Firstly, are you from Mars, there is no money at the back, what are you looking for behind you? We are strong, we are brave, we are smart. Secondly, didn't you read our national anthem, you evil capitalists? It says we rush forward carrying our enemies' bomb. We go right into our enemies camp. See, we are brave, you are cowards!!!
See, we know how to reason the right way. You can't even reason straight. Boy-o-boy, capitalism really screwed your mind up. But Mr. icniff, you did do one thing right, you came to China. Here you will learn the right way to reason, to think. Then you will be strong, rich and powerful like us.
OK, PM, eject investment......eject RMB !!
icnif77:
No 'eject Rmb'. I'd say 'save' and watch 'US$/Rmb pair': it's on 2010 level, but not because Chinese economy is (that) bad/down. It's because FOMC talk/think of raising interest rates, so Chin-ex reacted with devalue.
Rmb down is pain for US.
IMO, it's very difficult to make money on FOREX, because of 'currencies war' between-o USA, China&Ruski.
Better way is buying bullion (Gold, Silver) to preserve your savings. However, one must find out how to exit China with it ....impossible!
I am looking (after I'll fix my mouth) into the HK's Bank account with option of 'buying bullion with paper money' and pick-up bullion elsewhere, i.e. 'out of China', i.e. savings aren't in paper (Rmb) but in 'bullion price'....
I am going to the Wal-y with my skates now ...LOL
earthizen:
"I am laughing so hard, I need masssage ...."
Daluren: See, looking forward is the right way! Our Great Chairman Mao was so farsighted that he named his modernization plan Great Leap Forward, not Backward!!! You see, communism makes people smart!!! You really need some retraining!
You need massage? You have money, yes? Do you have passport too? Yes, yes? OK, I will give you big discount. I don't give other daluren discount! But in your case I will make an exception. Do you know Englsh? You do? That's even better. We can be friends! Now where do you want us to massage you, which heads would you like us to work on? The one at the top, as we have discussed, obviously need a big massage. In fact we need to empty out everything in there since you're so brainwashed. The other one.....also no problem.......but we need to talk about the passport thing first.... Do you own a house, car....how much do you have in the bank btw......what is your password?.
icnif77:
You mean my 'zhanghao'?
Short: 'it never happened, male hair-dresser would cut my hair-o ....
I use to cut my hair, because of 'socialising' ... in Fl, not because of 'too long'. Wal-y now...be serious!
P.S. Who in the world need massage after the laugh? LOLOL
earthizen:
I keep my cash liquid. No FX dealings, all hedged. I agree, it is extremely difficult to make money with the currency wars. Gold has plateau. Not much there. The big crocodiles are extremely smart, the public (small fishes) aren't buying so no food there.
Yes, "zhanghuo" means account. Let's call it a day and not hijack the thread. A pleasant chat for a Sunday afternoon it is. We can go PM or continue at the "china's obsession" thread.
ambivalentmace:
this years contract is in dollars, not rmb, school was not happy, they will be very unhappy at the end of the contract. hehe
No spatial awareness, I see people trying to park their car into obviously smaller spot everyday and failing and trying another spot. I see people bump into each others all the time on the street while not even staring at their phone. By the funniest is when your neighbors buy a new sofa / furniture and only realize that it won't fit in the elevator when they are here with their new piece of furniture, having to leave it in the lobby overnight and then call the moving guys with a rope to lift it to their balcony on the next day.
No awareness of space in general, be it physical or mental.
Mentally wise, no respect for personal space either. I don't mind being stuck like sardines in a can with other people on the subway or in an elevator, but i do mind when said people invade my personal space, stare at me like I can't see them or talk about me like I can't hear them or try really really hard to read my phone's screen with no respect for privacy whatsoever.
When you are like this you lose all sense of time and space, and yourself....
Besides blinded by money, growing up like this doesn't bode well for spatial awareness.
I was thinking about this just yesterday. Even asked a question of this nature on here myself before. I think it's the sardine syndrome, you get packed in so close to everyone else for so long, it feels normal. My experience is that you can halve (in China) what seems like an invasion of personal space back home in London, without someone calling you on it. Not a biggy on the whole, but if guys back home tried to crotch party a girl in the same way I've seen them do on the nightclub dance floors here, they'd be walking home with a serious case of the broken balls.
I lived in Tokyo for several years and have lived in GZ about 10 years. The difference, to me, in spatial awareness and the sense of being crowded between the two cities is cultural. Tokyo has a higher population density but feels more open due to the Japanese sense of politeness and awareness of outer and inner place. GZ is generally based on OPIUM (Only person in the universe is me syndrome). Symptoms are based on a lack of empathy or sympathy, resulting in the appearance of a lack of total disregard for others. Both countries value Face, but it seems there is a vast difference in its interpretation and realization.
It's plain stupidity, today I saw a university student display exactly what I'm talking about. A car was backing up angling it's front end south, while the student was heading north to the store but instead of taking the direct angle north towards the store walks straight, taking the path directly towards the rear of the backing up car (yes she was looking forward the entire time). Then she jumps out of the way towards the south almost running into the front end of the car. I see this about twice a week in one way or another. They just are incapable of thinking. CCP schooling
earthizen:
We all need a good laugh now and then. This comment of yours reminds me of a joke. Looks like written by some high school kid.
Q: How do you know if an Chinaman robbed your house?
A: Your homework is done, your computer is upgraded, but two hours later the fucker is still trying to back out of your driveway.
@scottsalan
Are you a Glass half empty or full person ?
Englteachted:
If it's a western glass, half empty, a Chinese glass, it's all good no matter what because you need to understand.
Chinese space is different to other space .
Chinese constantly test the theory that 2 objects CAN occupie the same time and space
icnif77:
I read, Chinese are taking over the space exploring. They might be also looking for 'your' possibility .