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Q: Do I have your permission?

I've noticed a hell of a lot of apps these days want to access everything damn thing on your phone... and, I'm also noticing that most Chinese apps (particularly the 'bigger' ones, such as JD and Taobao) won't let you use their app if you don't give them the rights to access your location, your phone contacts, even your photos, music, etc...

 

Which is total and complete BS!!!

 

And, so I don't... and don't get to use them (fine by me!)

 

So - do you allow these things access, and give them complete permissions?

 

Or, do you stand on principle, and don't let yourself be credited like a sesame?

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It's a simple choice. If you want to use their service, you provide access. If you don't wish to use their service, you don't allow access. It is their service afterall.

I want to use taobao and didi so i let them have access. For me the convenience of these apps outweighs my personal privacy issues. I have nothing to hide and should anyone snoop they will be bored to death and move on to a more nefarious hombre.

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I stand with the principle!

I have Nokia 'i-Phone-in-red' for HK$ 175, which is still 'operating' well since 2012 ...., when I opened my wallet for this purchase.

I can daily view calendar and current time at any location in the world, mind you .... Buzzer works well, too! Many other futures as 'calculator' ....

What I really miss is 'translator'. It would come very handy 'cause am often in no-English-speaking countries as China and Vladistan as my last habitat-for-human area.

My next 'am-smart-enough!-brick' will certainly have a 'translator' .... 

Here's AP with article from Xinjiang, i.e. about what ''Gov.com' can do with your smart device'':

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/17/surveillance-cams-f...

Meiya Pico, a security and surveillance company, has won 11 bids in the last six months alone from local Xinjiang jurisdictions. It won a joint bid with a DNA analysis company for 4 million yuan ($600,000) in Kargilik and has sold software that automatically scans smartphones for “terror-related pictures and videos” to Yarkent.

Meiya and CETC declined comment.

 

www.yahoo.com/news/m/492ef4fb-506c-37b1-a7e1-e7da4e26d668/ss_ap-exclusiv...

 

 

 

P.S.

BTC at USD 19634 . +10.13% for the day ... he he he.

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It's a simple choice. If you want to use their service, you provide access. If you don't wish to use their service, you don't allow access. It is their service afterall.

I want to use taobao and didi so i let them have access. For me the convenience of these apps outweighs my personal privacy issues. I have nothing to hide and should anyone snoop they will be bored to death and move on to a more nefarious hombre.

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hmmmm.....  I don't remember taobao asking for any permissions out of the ordinary,,, but I might have just missed it.  Anyway, I decide on a case-by-case basis.  I rarely grant any permissions on simple, infrequently visited sites,,,, but I would grant most any permission to taobao, because I need their services.

On the big picture though, I never worried hardly any at all with Web Security, I just can't imagine I'm high enough on the food chain to bother to hack. So, I also don't worry about those permissions.  Wanna know where I am living, or see my porn shots?  haha,, go ahead,,, hope your eyes don't bug out!

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Keep your browser clean. Delete cookies, history etc on a regular basis.

Your data is a commodity to be sold. Data protection acts only exist in certain countries... not here.

Microsoft, for example has sold out to china. Probably because they can get around western data protection in such a way that makes your location and history valuable. Targeted adds and all that.

iWolf:

As i commented above, you have to make a choice. Do you want to use the internet here or are you so highly principled thar you go off the grid. Going off the grid is the only way....oops, you'll need money and which company pays cash or barters chickens?. If you use the internet, a bank, have a job or buy something in a shop, your data has been tracked and a profile created of you. Cleaning cookies is not going to help. Hell, making a comment on this site means at least several government departments know where you live and other details of your life and that random spam in your email is from the email address with which you signed up to ecc having been sold. Solution? Go off the grid, live in a cave in the most remote location possible and do not talk to anyone again and by no means allow anyone to take your photo. Nowadays, that probably won't even help. The fact is "they" know who you are, where you are, what you buy, who your friends and associates are, everything. Why? Because you have a job, passport with rfid chip, phone (smart or dumb makes little difference), use the internet, buy things.......I'm reminded od Dr Stangelove. How i learned to stop worrying and love the bomb.

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Everything you say there makes sense iWolf, but damn that's f**king depressing.

 

 

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diverdude1:

yeah, and I doubt what they do with the information gathered is that sinister anyway.....   unless of course you are a target for some reason.   but most of us are not.

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I wonder... what possible (good) reason could JD, Taobao, baidu maps, translate, etc possibly want with my photos? Let alone my contacts??

 

The very act of asking (which, granted, is irrelevant) is suspicious enough.

 

Someone said that perhaps we should try to escape it all and do away with everything. I ask - why should we have to? Why should it be such a bad thing to want to remain relatively private, and not have the government and companies knowing everything about our lives??

 

More to the point - what would happen if someone sent you a message saying how bad the Australian cricket team were, and they needed to be replaced ASAP? (remembering that in cricket, the term 'XI' is very common...). Now, you've just been noted as someone to watch (as has this post!)

 

People have already forgotten (or chosen to ignore) Sesame credit... where you will have a 'social' credit score, based not only on your actual ability to repay loans, but also based upon your social media posts, your buying habits, and (by extension) your friends... What would the Cultural Devolution or Stalin's purges have been like if they had access to this type of information?? (What's Putin doing with it now?)  "Oh, you like buying things that we consider 'gay', and we don't like homosexuality... goodbye credit card!. Btw, thanks for telling us where we should raid next weekend!"

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I'm mostly with you diverdude. @shitty brown The reason taobao wants access to your photos is because they have a useful feature where you can search and object by photo. Either take a picture of it or it is in an existing photo. Your location will allow them to put shops closest to you with that product at the top of the results. Bastards right? Wanting to provide a better service....damn them. Bitches be whinging.

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You know you can just buy stuff on the jd website and pay with wechat. I don't have a jd app on my phone. 

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I don't use a smartphone, we chat or taobao, but my cave is pretty cool though.

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