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Q: Evolution and China?
The evolution of female attraction as based on primal instincts has evolved over the years and in the west about half or less (or more?) of women have become attracted to money and earning power the same as ancient women were attracted to brute strength as a means to provide (think hunting)...physical attraction aside.
If this is truly a form of evolution...have not the Chinese women as a race not evolved far quicker than the west?
Physical attraction aside hasn't money trumped most things here in woman's minds as a form of primal instinct?
The reasons for this are obvious but is it social evolution progressing or just catching up?
Whilst I think that money, like in the West, can influence some girls here, my primary impressions of Chinese girls are that they are caring, thoughtful, and VERY romantic, and are more likely to be attracted to men for more genuine reasons like love and romance. How did you research this, possibly girls in the larger cities, which must be a minority if you're looking at the whole population of China, are skewing your analysis?
snowballeffect:
Wow, how many girls have you 'experienced' in China? 
thedude:
I can't bring myself to let you know. Let's just say enough.
It took me a long time to trust my gf. It's been a year now. Jury is still out.
JungleLife:
You may be right in some circumstances or areas, but I think generally that the Chinese girl will look to marry someone who can look after them moreso than for 'love'. There are many stories about this, and in som ways I don't blame them because in this country if you are poor, you will more than likely always be poor. But in the west, we can marry for love even if the person is poor, because it is not difficult to become middle-class or even rich if you work towards it. In the west, the parents ask about the potential son/daughter in-laws character and if they love them. In China, they generally ask about the man's wealth, and if he owns a house. This is what I have learned form the Chinese people around me where I live, not only from my own opinions.
snowballeffect:
Yes, the girls parents ask about the financial situation, not always the girl herself.
JungleLife:
Yeah, I geuss you have a point. But since the girl has to comply to her parents' approval, I think it kills the romance in many of those relationships.
I still think there is the basic instinct for a girl who seeks a man who can protect them.
With that said, money is a great way of protecting and securing a good life for a girl.
snowballeffect:
Referencing your other question about hookers vs gf's, are you sure you're not getting confused by what the pimps are there for? Girls I'm sure do like to feel protected and not feel as if they are just being used for sex.
thedude:
Why do you assume every question asked is a literal question.
Metaphorical questions are common (like from me) and stir debate.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...how clean are you my friend?
snowballeffect:
Was looking more at his replies to Sokie's answer to his question actually. Dude, you said yourself that your research is solely based on your own experience, why make such bold statements about Chinese women based on that!? Unless of course you've slept with a significant enough population of chinese women?
thedude:
I never claimed to be quoting scientific research. I was simply asking other people here their experience with similar circumstances.
What part of my question appeared like a statement?
I know plenty of women here that are not money driven...they just want my dick or permanent Canadian residency.
snowballeffect:
Your words:
"Physical attraction aside hasn't money trumped most things here in woman's minds as a form of primal instinct?
The reasons for this are obvious"
Thats a bold statement combined with a question asking if people don't agree.
lol, I'm sure there are a few girls that would like my dick too or want my British PR I just wouldnt say that the majority of Chinese women primarily think about money with just that as my backup.
What I didnt add and what I do think is that a lot of girls parents (not the womean herself and hence why I didnt mention it in my original answer) may ask about their daughters potential husbands financial situation, but I do think that on the whole, as per your question, women in China are much more romantic than in the West.
thedude:
Contrary to your preconceived opinion I am genuinely happy for you if you have found this.
Once again my question is seeking many different answers. Please do not pigeon hole me if you wish to remain a reasonable voice here.
Contrary to my Limey friends (no sarcasm... really honest) I have not generalized anyone here.....aside from asking questions.
snowballeffect:
Sorry dude I'm not trying to pigeon hole you as anything bad, I was just answering your question and asking how you came to your conclusion. Peace out.
Of course, money is a greater concern here. These people are poor! In the West, we can afford to marry for love. But a relationship for purely love is a relatively new concept. 150 years ago, Europeans did their best to marry "up" and arranged marriages were not uncommon.
With the pressure from parents and society to marry a man with a house, car and a good job, it is not surprising that Chinese women are conditioned to look at the money equation much more seriously than the west. But the nature of women has not changed. It is no different in China than in anywhere else in the world. They want to be protected, romanced, chased, conquered and taken care of. This is a woman in her perfection. No evolution is needed.
BTW, In my experience, it is very easy to find a woman who wants romance over money. Overwhelmingly easy. Perhaps you are looking in the wrong place.
JungleLife:
Good comment, I agree with you 100% until the end. I think a woman will choose money over romance if she could only have one. They want to be provided for and for their future children etc., If they don't have that security, then the romance comes and goes very quickly leaving them with an insecure feeling that they won't want to live with. They will choose romance over money when things are not yet serious, but in the end, they will choose money with hopefully a god guy, even if he is not romantic.
xinyuren:
Of the women that I have dated during the time I've been here, I would say that if they had a choice between a rich man with no romance and me, damn near 100% would choose me. Not even one of my past girlfriends can be angry that I ended our relationship. I am still good friends with all of them. Chinese girls are romance on steroids. Now, their family... that's another thing.
Sorry man, I don't get the question. The thing about women favouring a man with cash is just the natural practicalities of life, but as you said, 'the reasons are obvious' so your main question was the last sentence: 'Is it social evolution progressing or just catching up?' Not taking the piss but I don't get the meaning. Is a woman's natural instinct to find a man who can provide for and support a family, social evolution progressing? Do you mean as opposed to degressing? (Is that a word?) And the other half: 'or catching up?' is equally confusing for me. Catching up to what? Are you talking about social evolution in the western world and western women catching up to the 'more evolved' Chinese women? I'm totally confused. Probably shouldn't have even asked, my head hurt before I even turned on the computer, now it's splitting.
thedude:
I meant that if this is social evolution are Chinese women ahead of the game or just catching up.
mArtiAn:
Trying to get my head round the question and i'm stumped. As is so often the case when trying to make such comparisons, you find yourself weighing qualities up as six of one and half a dozen of another. For the most part human virtue, qualities we regard as decent and a number of worthy human characteristics are largely governed and defined by the challenges of the world around us, which in this world are largely governed and defined by ones economic situation. So it's impossible to judge a person without judging the situation in which they live, and it seems to me that the global economy is a symbiotic union in which all are integrally linked and as such are in some way accountable for the situation and therefore the behaviour of eachother, ergo one cannot judge thy neighbour without in fact judging oneself. So are Chinese women ahead of the social evolutionary game or just catching up? No more so than a dog's teeth are ahead of or behind its tail when it's running round in circles trying to bite itself on the arse.
Now did that make any sense at all? I honestly don't know.
I found too many women interested in just money, many a ticket to Canada. Don't know how many ''where you from'' ''can you take me to your home'' questions I had. I met some nice women but didn't get involved with them as I had GF.
I found many women to be a bit more innocent than from home, some were man eaters. I think its experience that turns them into carnivores.
xinyuren:
You hit on something. When these innocent sweet young girls finally catch on to the cold reality of China (especially Chinese men), a deep basic change takes place within them. It's almost like someone reaches in and removes their soul. It happens to most of them somewhere between late 20's and early 30's. A pity.
I can possibly see parallels to what happens in the financial district of London, 'The City', where I used to work, and I'm sure other similar areas around the world. On a Friday night girls would come into the area, dressed in a certain way, trying to snare themselves a trader etc. in one of the heaving bars. Some of these girls are a certain type whom could be said to be primarily attracted to money over romance. Because said finance professionals are mostly from the same country as the girls that are chasing them and have a good understanding of life in that country, they would never stereotype the majority of girls from London (or the UK) as being motivated by money over romance and love. They would of course understand that these girls are in a minority.
Now, back to some expats and their perception of Chinese women. Could it be that the girls in the kind of places expats frequent, or the kind of girls who are forward enough to approach foreigners and discuss issues like bank balances, salaries, and passports, are also a certain type and of a similar % of the population as in London or the rest of the western world? Could it be that because expats are not Chinese and don't fully understand China's culture and its people, they could easily incorrectly assume that the majority of Chinese women are principally focused on money over love and romance?
Just a thought.
snowballeffect:
I just prefer to be open minded and try and not just see things from one group of peoples point of view. As I said to you in the comments above you haven't explained on what basis you think the majority of women in China are primarily interested in money over romance. In the absence of that and in the interest of fairness to the Chinese I'm just firing out another potential scenario. What's the problem? The answer isn't directed at you personally, is just a partial answer to the question on the website.
xinyuren:
In fact, I agree with snowball's conclusions. It would explain why my experiece is so different than dude's. In my years in China, I have stayed away from living in large cities and expat communities. In fact, I rarely see a foreigner in my daily life. Most of the girls I meet are not accustomed to foreigners. They have a different mindset from "foreigner worshippers". Very good point, snowball.
