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Q: Is giving private English classes in China illegal?

I am a homemaker staying in China. I would like to know if giving private English tutorship is illegal.

6 years 21 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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If you are charging money, yes. Unless you have the proper visa etc.

Peju:

Thanks Scots. What do you mean by "proper visa"?

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Z visa. A work visa. Lots of stuff online about it.

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If you are charging money, yes. Unless you have the proper visa etc.

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Thanks Scots. What do you mean by "proper visa"?

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Z visa. A work visa. Lots of stuff online about it.

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Nope.  Charging a fee for your service,,,, yep.

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Legal work in China (as an English teacher) requires Working permit and Foreign Expert Certificate.

 

In FEC is clearly (in Chinese) stated, who is your employer (Z visa sponsor) and where (School's name and address) you are entitled to work.

 

Work at any other place than specified in FEC makes your venture illegal by Chinese law.

 

Q is 'how&when that is enforced?', i.e. if you are moonlighting at other place than written in your FEC and cops enter the place while you are working, you are illegally employed (there!).

Hotwater:

Maybe you should update you’re c&p?

 

The FEC no longer exists. There is now the Foreigner Work Permit (FWP?). The combined ABC card. 

 

When the QR code on your work permit card is scanned that then includes details of employer, their address, etc. 

 

the rest of your reply is spot on. 

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Yeah, on some earlier thread I wrote 'if FEC still exist ...', but here I didn't make the 'notice'.

I just missed my flight .... I hate airports! angel

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Don't listen to these guys.

Of course it is legal, just like in the country you come from, no approval to work from the government is required.

That's right isn't it?

Oh! And what does your country do to illegal workers? Naturally, China would be more kind. They may give you an award. That's just how understanding the government is here.

If you want the skinny on working illegally, send a PM to a user called Shitting Brown (or something like that). He gloats about having worked on the wrong visa for years. See his question history for more information.

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Instead of getting paid, you can technically take donations. No one will give a fuck anyway. It's actually safer than working illegally for a training center. 

..and just take cash, there is no paper trail that way.

juanisaac:

Or for "gifts" and "food .” I charged dinner sometimes for classes.

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What do you mean “I am a homemaker staying in China”?

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nope, if your student is a government official.

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It's illegal, but everyone does it

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Usually contracts with schools or training centers will state you must be granted permission by your visa sponsor

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A: I had a similar experience in HK. If I recall correctly, before or at
A:I had a similar experience in HK. If I recall correctly, before or at the Z visa application, I had to submit ME from the ordinary HK clinic, where I explained why I need ME and I asked them to examine only necessary things (I don't remember the cost ...), and then ... I got Z stamp and when back in China, I had to complete another RP ME, which was on the employer, i.e. included in the Contract ...We've never discussed refund of payment for HK ME with my employer. Year 2013 ...I'd say, that is a regular thingy embassies around the world require, before issuing visas for LT stay in the country. "Vladimir Vladimiro-Witch ras-Putin" (LOL@your pronunciation ..) demands the same thingy before granting LT stay in Ruski.  ... Haa, 2013 was the Snowden's year. I was in Kowloon at the time of his landing .. with all these files ... I'm-Still-in-LMAO-State ... Cost for the ME in HK was around HK$ 2000/200 EUR, and ME was kind of swift, quicker and way shorter than on the mainland ... -- icnif77