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Q: Have F visas been fazed out?
Has the F visa been fazed out as of July 1st? I was wanting to get one for short term study. Has anyone got an F visa in the last few days, in particular in Kunming?
10 years 41 weeks ago in Visa & Legalities - Kunming
i am waiting for a new 'Z' visa - fingers crossed
will be in embassy tomorrow and will ask what the new rules mean
sorrel:
I've got my 'Z' visa ok: I had checked the paper-work I received from mu school with a Chinese lawyer friend just to confirm legitimacy. Interestingly enough this time I was asked for my flight details when applying for the Visa.
sorrel:
yes, I applied in my home country so the flight information I had to supply had my arrival date and time for China
sorrel:
yes, the 'normal' way. Had I stayed in my last school, the process would all have been completed at the end of the semester before I . but I changed schools, so it was all done from home.
Rin, short term study requires the X1 for less than one year of study, the F visa has not been fizzled out but restrictions have been added and the complexity has intensified
Hmm, so it appears I still need to get the health check and residence permit for short term study? Is this correct? I'm trying to factor in all the costs.
The first thing you must understand, is that China is very much concentrated in eliminating getting one visa to come into China, and once here, do something else.
Take for example the F business visa. It was issued for those coming to China for specific reasons, one of them was a 6 months internship. But many used it to come into China, study whatever for less than 6 months, and even on top of that, work to pay for their daily expenses. After July 1, 2013, that is out, and now you must get an X1 visa to do the same, but you will not be allowed to work at all.
Within 30 days of entering China, you must obtain your residence permit at the local PSB, which will be granted for the time the visa is valid. If a health certificate is required by the local PSB (some do, some may not), you will be told where to go and get it. Cost was just under 300 Rmb a couple of years ago.
Of course, all of the above applies only if you wish to be 100 % legal. If not, you take whatever chances you are willing to take.
Rin:
Thanks for the info. I wonder if everything is dealt with on a case by case basis? I do want to be 100 percent legal. I've been teaching here three years legally and feel my next move is to learn Chinese well enough so that I can possibly get a translation job. Hence the short term study. If I feel study is going well, I would change to long term study.
A colleague told me today that here in Heilongjiang province, we are now required to renew our work visas every three months.
Anyone heard about this?
cooter:
If true, that would blow some serious donkey ballz. My current RP is good until October...guess I'll find out then.
Derek: after July 1, most F visas granted will be the ones up to 6 months validity. The law actually gives the right to the Embassy official to grant or deny the visa without even having to give an explanation. So, my guess is that for ne applicants, they will get visas with 90 days validity, and after a couple increase that to 6 months and eventually to a year, depending on the reason stated when you requested the visa. Fir example, if you are a salesman, or come to China to train local workers on a process or its machinery, you may get a longer one (6 months to 1 year). But to teach English, no more.
Not if they are for legitimate business purposes. If you can prove you have a legitimate business you have no need to worry but if its for teaching English than I would say yeah they are cracking down on those kind. Find a legitimate business model that works and keep doing it until it works. In the meantime just teach private students. Do not work for schools or training centers, build up your guangxi use teaching or other ideas as open doors to expand and build your business than you will have nothing to worry about.
They make too much money with F visa renewals, they'll never give that up with a slowing economy. Just a few scare tack ticks to make it look like they are doing something.
I *just* got an F visa. Like about 2 weeks ago, for a 1 semester exchange study program in Qingdao, and my classmates applied for it too.
Apparently they're still here.
ironman510:
So you got an F Visa, wow, clap clap clap, would you mind telling us how many months its good for and how much it cost you, you should be on a X visa though.
Mr_spoon:
Wow that came out of nowhere. I don't get why you're being such an arrogant douche, but I'll humor you.
It's good for 180 days, single entry, and it cost me... well that part I'm not quite sure, since my parents paid, but it was something around 250 euros, if I remember.
I actually applied for an X visa with multiple entries, mr. smarty pants. I even had the freaking admission notice that said I could apply for it.
But they gave me an F visa for some reason, and it was like 1 week before I had to take the plane, so there wasn't much I could do.
Rin:
Wow, 250 euros? Super expensive! I paid like 60£ for mine. That was three years ago though. It was a six month multiple entry.
We should make one thing perfectly clear, The new regulation we announced on July 1st. That was just an "Announcement", These new visa laws will start on this coming September 1st 2013.
So for now its just a scare tactic thats working. Trust me many will feel the pinch after the next turnover of F Visa workers by February 2014.
So of course anyone can still get the F visa. For now, oh Hong Kong did tell me one little thing, it'll be a lot harder to get an F visa after Septmeber.
CARLGODWIN1983:
You use "We" in your post. Clearly a foot soldier of either the Government, or a Chinese troll who hates foreigners and is glad to see us all go.
ironman510:
@Carlgoodwin. No, well I wouldn't say no completely, it would be nice if companies took us legal working folks on rather then getting the short cut F visa workers, yeah I'll admit that much. But I'll be fair and say that I know it's not every F visa workers fault, it's mainly the system. I have real evidence regarding this change coming for Visa's after September 2013. So I think the foreign public has a right to know and prepare well. So I can troll around as you said.
A friend has been for a business visa today.
He has been limited to a one year visa with the requirement to exit every sixty days. He has to wait 7 days for this.
Alternatively, he could wait 20 days for a 90-day exit one year visa.
This is through someone who could help him.
Is pointless now, tbh.
ironman510:
Like we been saying anyone can still get a year or something special until September. So better act fast.
