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Q: How do expats in Beijing/Shanghai think about those in the 2nd and 3rd tier cities?

Since there are quite a lot difference between these 2 cities and other cities around China.

I just feel those expats are not in these 2 cities are some sort of strange with their opinions or that.....

12 years 31 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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I think I understand the Chinglish..... You are hoping that expats living in 1st tier cities have taken the mentality that is stereotyped about Chinese in 1st tier cities and that they think less of us back-woods country bumpkin expats living is smaller cities.

I have to give you credit, you've learned that you can troll against everyone on this site and be able to defend yourself so you are hoping that the laowai will turn on one another. I give you credit for the effort but next time work on your English so people can understand you enough to fall into your trap.

Alex66:

I understood what they said, but I really think they needed to explain it better. It's all very well to say what you say about trolling (which I didn't do), but someone who thinks they are smart by doing it, is really pathetic! Sorry, I think anyone who writes in Chinglish, should really appreciate people who try to help them with their english, if you mean to do it, well make sure we know because taking the mickey out of me is not a good idea!!

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DaBen:

Alex now you got me confused. Take the mickey out of you? Plus I was talking about her trolling not you.

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derek:

Nicely put. However where can I get the Chinese Official list of Cities ranked by tier? I can't believe I have been here all this time and haven't been properly judging people based on geographic location. Jesus, I had it all wrong!

12 years 18 weeks ago
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Localla:

Yea, you never heard how a Newyorker talks about Texans....thats because you are from small town....

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DaBen:

You're question wasn't about "a New Yorker talking about a Texan." You're question was closer to a German guy moving to New York and thinking badly about another German that moved to Austin.... And nice response time on that come back :)

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I really don't like to think about it too much. I agree with the above comment about falling into a trap. You have mentioned I guess in your opinion and not of everyone else's the 1st tier city but you fail to mention any of the 2nd to 3rd tier cities in your question. If your saying that only Shanghai and Beijing is first tier and all others are less than that is your opinion. I'm not quite understanding what you mean by how do expats in the first tier cities think about those in lower tier cities, but it's not my job to  think about others in a negative way....so no comment on that.

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if you had no comment, then why did you waste your time writing a WHOLE PARAGRAPH ABOUT IT????????????????????

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Unlike many of the locals I don't need to find ways to look down on others so I can feel superior. While I have a lot of pride in the way I act/behave it is more of a personal nature from within rather than an outward apearance for others benefit(face). So I will answer that where someone lives makes zip difference to how I think I about them (but is of the utmost importance that they possess a genuine LV bag or wallet)

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Yeah, being in second tier Hangzhou should shame you infinitely forever.

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I would answer the question, being that I'm in Shanghai, but I don't understand the question...

I think the 2rd and 3rd cities are quickly moving up to 1st tier.

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Frankly, this is truly  a non sequitur.  Do I even care what some anonymous person that I have never met in another place thinks about me?  I pay attention to my immediate neighbors to a degree required by basic civility and to my boss sometimes, as he gives me my paycheck.

GuilinRaf:

Actually a non sequtur is a faulty premise. For example, "My beard is black, therefore I like to drink beer".

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It's up to you to choose a city you like. However, as for me, I am convinced, that a job in a bigger city can provide you a better work environment (polite, educated employees/management, better facilities, brighter students), higher salary, a chance of meeting interesting people/making connections, more opportunities for future development etc. And more importantly is that, the outlook of most Chinese living in the 2nd,1st, tier cities is less stereotyped, than those living in the 3d. tier cities. Most Chinese in big cities enjoy a freedom of choice, which means they can decide themselves where to work, whom to marry etc. In bigger cities there's a bigger proportion of expats and Chinese having common outlooks. No matter how hard I tried to explain to my ex-colleagues in the 3d. tier city all prospects of freedom of choice, most of them had an opinion, that having freedom is  too dangerous way to go and it's always safer/stabler to choose, somebody/something already planned/decided by your parents regardless you like it or not. However later you can still decide, what to have for lunch, what channel to watch and what shoes to buy))). Sorry for some OT.  

My first job in China was a training center in the 3d-tier city. It was giving me an enormous  pressure and almost burned me out. Since November 2011, I moved to the 2nd-tier city and as a result my income has increased in 30%, my free time has tripled. Therefore I really don't see any reason for working in small cities in China, I would better stay away from them and  hope I could move to the 1st.-tier city soon))).

  

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I wouldn't go to them. Too hard to live there unless you're a real trooper. If you're Chinese it's okay cause you can get the food you like and stuff. But, for westerners it is hard. 

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I'm living 3rd tier.  Opening a school here.  I'll let you know how it goes.

dharma86:

Best of luck

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