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If you issue a new passport will the past police reports made from your old passport be removed from the police directory?
10 years 26 weeks ago in Visa & Legalities - China
No Why? are you afraid they will think you are a foreigner ?
At PSB:
U: '.....be removed from the police directory now, when I have new book?
Police officer: 'Yeah, sure! We'll just add notes: ' your name, visa overstay' has new passport!'
Police reports and passports don't go hand-in-hand. Fingerprints do. And you can't erase those.
Your passport number may change with the new passport, but your police record will still be on file with Interpol, the FBI or whatever crime-fighting mafia rules your country.
Yes, if you're an American it will because your passport number changes, their are many people with the same name.
Believe or not this is very common, so to go about this the safe way, get your new passport and go to Hong Kong, have Forever Bright apply for a visa for you and try it...
icnif77:
How will you 'avoid' Chinese records attached to your name?
ironman510:
Because there are thousands of people that travel in and out of China with the same name, again read my reply slowly... ONLY countries that have a passport number that change when renewing their passport can pull off this trick, I've seen it many times in Shenzhen and doing a visa run to Hong Kong...
icnif77:
I assume, Chinese records carry one's name with the birth date, (pic?) and violation. Are you saying, Chinese cannot differentiate between two (same) names and different birth dates attached?
ambivalentmace:
chinese use paper records and xp software, they cant track anything very well, if they actually went into the 21 st century, they could do background checks themselves instead of everybody bringing a copy to the psb.
hell the banks make you move your money within the same bank if you change cities,
the advanced computer technology king of the earth by 2049 was the last crazy thing i heard them say. good luck with that.
ironman510:
@icnif77, again everything is done by a passport number. So the birth date and picture are useless.
icnif77:
When I'm thinking about 'your' possibilities, I feel 'am in 70-tis' , again.
ironman510:
Chinese passport check system is still in the 70-tis, so your feeling is correct..
Haven't you seen all the facial recognition cameras? Do you know how they connect?
There's a database that is accessible by every major airport in China on a national level. You have to go through the facial-recognition process whether you're entering or exiting China.
They'll tie you to the previous passport when you enter the country, and presume you're either a spy, that criminal, or whatever else they want to come up with. Your police reports will still be attached to that previous passport, and they'll link it through their actually-very-good facial recognition database.
If you did anything arrest-worthy, you'll be either deported or, most likely, carted off to jail to serve time. There's no way out now. Unless you're black. Tread carefully.
ambivalentmace:
you are assuming the cameras actually work and they dont turn them off to save money, half the scanners at train stations and airports really dont work in china, just for show (face), hell half the nuclear weapons in their tunnel system are fake ones just to be seen by satellites, this is china, nothing is really what it appears. appear weak when you are strong, appear strong when you are very weak, they live by this rule. they cant even catch their worse criminals sometimes for over a decade.
ironman510:
hahaha facial-recognition? Thanks for the good laugh Hulk. Yes yes lots of cameras but NO, they won't do this unless you step into a police station.
icnif77:
Sooo, Chinese can also pretend they don't know, butt...in real.......I am in 'they know everything (and more)' Camp, despite how ben their way of collecting data is.
Hulk:
In this thread: people who have not set foot in a major airport in China recently, or who are completely oblivious to their surroundings (ambivalentmace, ironman510, icnif77).
Hulk:
You guys are seriously kidding yourselves if you don't realize what's going on in airports now. Whenever you leave or enter China, they record your face. Facial recognition is actually really, really good now.
I'm not talking about train stations, etc. I'm talking when you enter the country or try to leave, they WILL get you.
We all look alike anyway so do not worry matty they don't care about Chinese
No
Your record will still be in their system, so my advice is try to avoid to make the same mistake again to make yourself no bad record.
No
Your record will still be in their system, so my advice is try to avoid to make the same mistake again to make yourself no bad record.
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Just because your passport gets a new number and most of China fails to understand this is possible, doesn't mean the Chinese Embassy in your home country is not able to decipher the relationship between your old passport number and your new number, as part of the visa application process. E.g. my passport also have a social security ID number which is unique within my country and cannot be changed.