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Q: Now the war has started...are you getting out?

Iran ...China's major Allie has started attacking the USA in Iraq... is it time to gp before the USA wipes parts of Iran off the face of the earth and China needs to find fuel somewhere else?

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-boeing-737-180-board-crashes-after-takeoff-iran

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 There were no survivors in the Ukraine International 737-800 which crashed shortly after takeoff from Iran, according to the head of the Iranian Red Crescent's Relief and Rescue Organization in an appearance on state television. The New York Times meanwhile, reports that the plane was carrying "at least 170 people," while Bloomberg puts the number between 167 and 180. The cause of the crash has thus far been reported as a 'technical problem.'

The flight, Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, departed Imam Khomenei International Airport at 6:12 a.m. on Wednesday bound for Kiev, Ukraine. It lost contact at 6:14 a.m. according to a flight tracker.

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Ukrainians, Iranians, Canadians, Germans & Brits among 176 killed in Boeing 737 crash near Tehran

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko has confirmed the number and country of origin of all passengers and crew on board the Ukrainian International Airlines Boeing 737-800 which crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran.
Jan 8, 2020 09:16

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No US casualties so far. 

I'm fine to stay. 

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The war has started over in Persia, and you're getting out of where? China? I really see your logic, mate.

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By e-Tities posting rules event/post/thread must be connected to China , so ... 

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China is best mates with iran and gets 60% of its oil there

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Plot thickens ... with China all over the place ...

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/deeper-story-behind-assassination-soleimani

 

Days after the assassination of General Qasem Soleimani, new and important information is coming to light from a speech given by the Iraqi prime minister. The story behind Soleimani’s assassination seems to go much deeper than what has thus far been reported, involving Saudi Arabia and China as well the US dollar’s role as the global reserve currency

The Iraqi prime minister, Adil Abdul-Mahdi, has revealed details of his interactions with Trump in the weeks leading up to Soleimani’s assassination in a speech to the Iraqi parliament. He tried to explain several times on live television how Washington had been browbeating him and other Iraqi members of parliament to toe the American line, even threatening to engage in false-flag sniper shootings of both protesters and security personnel in order to inflame the situation, recalling similar modi operandi seen in Cairo in 2009, Libya in 2011, and Maidan in 2014. The purpose of such cynicism was to throw Iraq into chaos.

Here is the reconstruction of the story:

[Speaker of the Council of Representatives of Iraq] Halbousi attended the parliamentary session while almost none of the Sunni members did. This was because the Americans had learned that Abdul-Mehdi was planning to reveal sensitive secrets in the session and sent Halbousi to prevent this. Halbousi cut Abdul-Mehdi off at the commencement of his speech and then asked for the live airing of the session to be stopped. After this, Halbousi together with other members, sat next to Abdul-Mehdi, speaking openly with him but without it being recorded. This is what was discussed in that session that was not broadcast: 

Abdul-Mehdi spoke angrily about how the Americans had ruined the country and now refused to complete infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless they were promised 50% of oil revenues, which Abdul-Mehdi refused.

The complete (translated) words of Abdul-Mahdi’s speech to parliament:

This is why I visited China and signed an important agreement with them to undertake the construction instead. Upon my return, Trump called me to ask me to reject this agreement. When I refused, he threatened to unleash huge demonstrations against me that would end my premiership.

Huge demonstrations against me duly materialized and Trump called again to threaten that if I did not comply with his demands, then he would have Marine snipers on tall buildings target protesters and security personnel alike in order to pressure me.

I refused again and handed in my resignation. To this day the Americans insist on us rescinding our deal with the Chinese.

After this, when our Minister of Defense publicly stated that a third party was targeting both protestors and security personnel alike (just as Trump had threatened he would do), I received a new call from Trump threatening to kill both me and the Minister of Defense if we kept on talking about this “third party”.

 

Nobody imagined that the threat was to be applied to General Soleimani, but it was difficult for Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi to reveal the weekslong backstory behind the terrorist attack.

Even so, the geopolitical and economic trend is inexorably towards a multipolar world order, with China increasingly playing a leading role, especially in the Middle East and South America.

Venezuela, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Qatar and Saudi Arabia together make up the overwhelming majority of oil and gas reserves in the world. The first three have an elevated relationship with Beijing and are very much in the multipolar camp, something that China and Russia are keen to further consolidate in order to ensure the future growth for the Eurasian supercontinent without war and conflict.

Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, is pro-US but could gravitate towards the Sino-Russian camp both militarily and in terms of energy. The same process is going on with Iraq and Qatar thanks to Washington’s numerous strategic errors in the region starting from Iraq in 2003, Libya in 2011 and Syria and Yemen in recent years.

The agreement between Iraq and China is a prime example of how Beijing intends to use the Iraq-Iran-Syria troika to revive the Middle East and and link it to the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative.

While Doha and Riyadh would be the first to suffer economically from such an agreement, Beijing’s economic power is such that, with its win-win approach, there is room for everyone.

Saudi Arabia provides China with most of its oil and Qatar, together with the Russian Federation, supply China with most of its LNG needs, which lines up with Xi Jinping’s 2030 vision that aims to greatly reduce polluting emissions.

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''Modus Operandi'' and Sicilian proverb ''Revenge is dish/meal the best served cold'', i.e. "We aren't done yet ..."

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/almost-inconceivable-attacks-iraq...

 

"Almost Inconceivable" That Attacks In Iraq Will Mark End Of Iranian Retaliation, Experts Say 

Following a message from President Trump claiming "all is well", and another comment from Iranian Foreign Minister Javid Zarif claiming that Iran had "concluded" its reprisals for the killing of General Suleimani, markets have latched on to the belief that perhaps Iran is finished with its retaliation, while Trump appears to have found the "off ramp" that he was looking for.

But traders aren't the only ones betting on peace: Following the events of last night, journalists and regular people on the street have apparently started to realize that this isn't the beginning of WWIII after all. 

But according to several analysts and Iran experts, anybody who thinks this is the end of it is being tragically naive.

  

Let's start with one of the most well-known journalists in the US, Iranian-American Yashar Ali, who delivered the following tweet thread warning the US that, if history is any guide, Iran's true reprisal will come in the form of a terror attack on civilians, likely carried out via proxies.

 

1. I want to express this carefully cause I don't want to minimize anything that results in loss of life. But missiles flying back/forth in Mid East is all too common (something US can handle) & not what makes me nervous about the Soleimani situation

Here's what makes me nervous https://twitter.com/DanLamothe/status/1214684989952077824 …

2. What makes me nervous is illustrated in the WSJ story. The Iranian government has always operated on its own timeline. If you think Iran lobbing missiles over the border is the kind of revenge they ultimately have in mind, you're wrong. https://on.wsj.com/2QYlSMP

 

3. Example: In 2012, assassins kill an Iranian nuclear chemist (likely directed by Israel). Iran promises revenge.

Where does the ultimate revenge take place?

A month later in Georgia, India and Thailand where Israeli diplomats are targeted with bombshttps://on.wsj.com/2QYlSMP

4. Example: In 1992, IDF killed the Sec General of Hezbollah

Where did Iran retaliate?

In Buenos Aires with a truck bomb driven into the Israeli embassy. That attack killed 29 people

Another attack two years later took place at the Jewish Community Center killing 85 people

5. Those examples are pretty tight timelines for Iranians. The Iranian gov sees revenge as almost a generational thing...their timeline can be in months/years. Revenge always doesn't come via a show of force they take PUBLIC credit for.

6. So what I'm saying is all these people with their chest thumping, I would be cautious about what you see as Iranian revenge and unfortunately prepare yourselves for the kind of attacks that are unexpected, that don't follow a tight timeline, and show up where you least expect.

7. If people think that this is it...that Iran has chosen to retaliate against the US for killing the second most powerful man in Iran, by lobbing some missiles across the border that didn't result in US casualties then I have a bridge to sell you

https://twitter.com/KattyKay_/status/1214726523103657984 

8. I can't believe I'm seeing people saying that this was a face saving move by Iran and now that there haven't been any US casualties, that we should move on.

The level of naivety is astonishing.

Do people really think this is how Iran is going to retaliate?

 

9. Read Jake’s tweet...for those of you thinking this is just a weak response from Iran & that they’re terrified of the US mil, ask yourself if this how a nation that has funded attacks globally would respond to the killing of its most important General https:twitter.com/jaketapper/sta

 

10. That may very well be true, but if people think this is the only way Iranians will respond then they’re unaware of the reality. So while POTUS is taking the off ramp, the Iranians will sit and wait and do what they want and when they want to do it.

 

11. The problem is so many people have thought about this situation through the lens of conventional warfare. So they believe if there is no conventional warfare that the situation has deescalated.

But conventional warfare should have never been the concern!

 

Indeed, CNBC adds that blowback from Iran could continue for years, and could come in the form of covert diplomatic action, cyberterrorism or even a more conventional attack.

If President Trump is suitably respectful during his expected address to the nation on Wednesday, then Iran might deliver another "overt response" in the coming days. Jarrett Blanc, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, warned of such a response in an interview with CNBC.

But if Trump gloats about how the US killed one of their top generals, and all they did was blow up a bunch of rockets in the desert, then it's possible that a furious Tehran could ratchet up the conventional weapons response.

Blanc said: "If he gloats that, you know, we’ve killed a top Iranian general and all they’ve done is hit the desert, he greatly increases the chances that there will be a further, overt response from Iran and again, increase the chance of a rapid escalation toward a really large scale conflict in the region."

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tus/1214740700711051266?s=21 

icnif77:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/stocks-suddenly-tumble-after-green-zone-explosion-headline

 

Iran-Backed Militia Fires Three Rockets At US Embassy In Baghdad

Wed, 01/08/2020 - 15:51

 

Summary:

*3 Katyusha rockets land in Baghdad's Green Zone which houses government buildings, foreign missions and the US embassy.

*The target was US embassy

*Sirens go off at embassy

*One rocket fell between embassy and a Govt building (Mayadeen)

It was supposed to be a day of de-escalation, so when Reuters, Sky News Arabia, Fox News and other sources reported that "several" Katyusha rockets were fired by the IRGC-backed Kataib Hezbollah and hit the Green Zone in Baghdad and explosions have been heard...

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I can see many financial analysts here.

All I can say is China is no best mate to nobody, except economic tradeship. No difference to any western countries (actually any modern country, how about that).

 

If you're worried about getting out of China, you're probably doing something CIA-ish? But for that, you probably won't have this much time to post to E-tities.

 

I think here is safe. Just work your daily job, drink coffee, everything is fine! ^_^

Spiderboenz:

Not necessarily CIA-ish, but you're closely monitored if you have certain things in your background related to working with foreign governments. 

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You are closely monitored as laowai in China even if you don't have any history of working with foreign gov.'s.

The problem is the most regular laowai's don't realize that. Surveilance is very subtle ...

example: 

"I stayed in Fuk., Xinjiang whole contract and then moved to Henan at the end of 2014. Soon after my arrival to the city, few Uyghurs came at my way in Henan ... they disappered out of the city a month or so later ...

I don't see that as an 'usual event'. There aren't many Uyghurs in Henan ...

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Well it looks like everyone is back pedaling now and trying not to kick off another war but if it does happen for whatever reason I don't think there would be many problems with staying where you are.

 

I think aside from an official statement or two - along with the rest of the world - telling both sides to reconsider etc China's only involvement will be making money selling arms to Iran.

 

 

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