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Q: So Echinacities is finally Dead

Well it's been a long time coming but it's safe to say the answers forum is in its final breaths of life.
Just a library of topics that have been answered time and time again.
Oh well...it was fun while it lasted.
I've met some great people here over the past 8 or so years and I've come across some really stange beings too .
I would send flowers but the ecc guys would probably send them out as redemption prizes.
RIP ECHINACITIES

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Yep, I reckon you're right Phil.

 

I was reading through one of the reanimated 6 year old threads the other day and thinking how there were differences of opinion, heated debate, squabbling, bickering, wumaos and trolls and people trolling the trolls and wumaos for sport, Vicki's dramas with jobs and guys and the entertaining bitching match that could start....  there was always something interesting here.

 

Now people don't even bother up or down voting comments and the trolls seem to have moved on. I think when the rats (trolls) have abandoned the ship it's a sign of major problems.

philbravery:

Lol...rats leaving the ship.... good observation

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Stiggs, I was busy typing my answer when you posted your answer. I didn't see your answer until after I hit Submit. I didn't mean to duplicate some of your same thoughts.

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Rats aren't leaving ... They are/were harmonized by  ... I'll name it,

 

'The Power' ... 

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Great minds think alike Jean.P.

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Yep, I reckon you're right Phil.

 

I was reading through one of the reanimated 6 year old threads the other day and thinking how there were differences of opinion, heated debate, squabbling, bickering, wumaos and trolls and people trolling the trolls and wumaos for sport, Vicki's dramas with jobs and guys and the entertaining bitching match that could start....  there was always something interesting here.

 

Now people don't even bother up or down voting comments and the trolls seem to have moved on. I think when the rats (trolls) have abandoned the ship it's a sign of major problems.

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Lol...rats leaving the ship.... good observation

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Stiggs, I was busy typing my answer when you posted your answer. I didn't see your answer until after I hit Submit. I didn't mean to duplicate some of your same thoughts.

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Rats aren't leaving ... They are/were harmonized by  ... I'll name it,

 

'The Power' ... 

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Great minds think alike Jean.P.

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You're right about that.

 

It's been 34 weeks since the Answer of the Day changed, and the list of the Top Users has been frozen in time a very long time (probably 34 weeks too).  The Admin went bye-bye long ago.  Even The Cat accepts it's a lost cause.

 

The one thing that stands out most to me about Ambi's recent posts (which he inexplicably attaches to old posts from 5 and 6 years ago), is how many more active members there were back then compared to now, with many more female and Chinese members participating in the discussions.

 

Video killed the radio star.  And WeChat / QQ / etc. killed website Qs & As.

 

When you sign off for the last time, please remember to turn off the lights.

 

Ciao!

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Willie Nelson Lyrics 

                                       "The Party's Over"
 

Turn out the lights 
The party's over 
They say that 
All good things must end 
Call it tonight 
The party's over 
And tomorrow starts
The same old thing again 

But the crazy crazy party 
Never seen so many people 
Laughing dancing 
Look at you you're having fun 
But look at me 
I'm almost cryin' 
That don't keep her love from dyin' 
Misery cause for me the party's over 
Turn out the lights... 

Once I had a love undyin' 
I didn't keep it but I tried 
Life for me was just one party 
And then another 
I broke her heart so many times 
I had to have my parting wife 
I had to have my party 
Why broke her heart so many times 
But one day she said 
Sweetheart the party's over 
Turn out the lights...

 

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I remember how interesting some of the comments were 8 years ago. Many people have come and gone. Now the questions aren't so interesting. Maybe it's me because I have been a usere of this sight for so long, although not a top user. Too bad. it has been said that all good things come to an end. (I don't really agree with that)

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Have you ever been to India? ... holly cows in the middle of crossing 'regulating' the traffic jam and all that jazz ...?

 

Cheer you up with one c&p:

THIS ...

Panic on Indian flight as first-time flyer mistakes exit door for toilet             

 

 

 

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when i was in China ECC was a great source of entertainment (who can forget 'sex on a 30 day visa') ? and grounding about life and attitudes in China.

 

in a way it is obvious that the writing has been on the wall for some time, as the 'unanswered' section shows with SPAMS, blocked questions, duplicates and questions from years ago.

It is clear the Mod is not that concerned.

 

There have been great posters, some of whom i am in sporadic contact with, and others i would like to keep in contact with - anyone got a contact for Samsara?.

There have been trolls of varying degrees of skill, idiots and the posters who ask a variation of the same question over and over and over and over.........

 

So much is happening in the world that has a Chinese angle.

There is the amusing incidenct with the family of PengCi (碰瓷) in Sweden who, with the aid of Global Times, has put Sweden on the 'naughty list' in China's eyes (hurt feelings anyone). Seriously give that man an Oscar for overacting !!

 

There was yet another vaccine scandal, and the on-going 'trade-war', and NO discussion here on ECC - not surprising it is deserted by most, only the die-hard remaining.

 

Ciao all, 

hope your lives are coming together as well as mine has since i left China

 

 

 

 

coineineagh:

I loved Samsara's comments. I still reference his blog 'Chinese Self-Perception' frequently. Also great for an amusing re-read every now and then. Witty humour and insights that really cracked me up. I even saved his blog text, just in case it gets lost or inaccessible. Normally I only do that for things I wrote, but that blog was golden!

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I’ve got to agree with Phil, Sorrel, Jean P, Diver, Dinnie, even Icnif. 

 

 

I’d been coming here less & less over recent months, even when still in China. The bickering & right-wing shite drive me away. Now I’m back in Blighty I’ve got less reason. On my last few visits it was basically Ambi resurrecting 5-6 years old topics. 

 

I’ve enjoyed my time here. Made some friends off-site (BHGAL, Curiousdude, Royce, NZTeach80, Shining...) 

 

Adios one & all. You were great while you lasted. 

ambivalentmace:

I do answer and post to old questions to just show how the same questions do get rephrased and asked again, it is interesting to see opinions change on some topics and other topics, evolution went backwards and the problem got worse.

 

I think the best days in China are in the rear view mirror, but some of us hate leaving the show early and being rude.

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I was also wondering why the latest answers are from like 6/7 years ago... 

 

I will put some interesting questions that I have no f**king clue about pronto.

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it's a numbers game. With a bigger pool of posters, posts will be more interesting and varied. it's less interesting because less people come here to post. i suspect the reason is, that there are now less people living long term in china. the increasingly troublesome visa process and the decreasingly reliability of v p n s, is really starting to get to me. 

 

i don t think the forum will die just go through cycles. echinacities must still be the number 1 recruitment website. it has more varied jobs than elsewhere. that will bring people to this site.

 

i dont see anything wrong with newcomers asking questions that have been asked before. they want current answers and it doesn t take long to answer them. 

 

i hate seeing answers dredged up from 6 to 7 years ago. i respect ambivalent's logic but i wont even bother to read it if it's an old answer. i imagine most others switch off too

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This post has drawn more informed answers and users than any combination of questions in the last 3 months. .lol Must be on drain cycle. .lol

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Yeah a few older names have popped up since you put this question up Phil and I'm noticing people online I haven't seen for a while now. That suggests people are still checking in here - maybe not logging on but putting their head in the door at least.

 

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This site was much better 5 years ago. 

philbravery:

The first couple of years were far the most interesting and informative . All those things you wondered about but thought you were on your own. It's surprisingly similar experiences for all of us

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Yeah it's been very quiet for a long time. I guess eventually, as time passes, I'll forget to pop by as well.

What did strike me, was how many well-known names are lurking, and chose to comment here on the 'goodbye thread'. People I hadn't seen in recent comments for months. If activity does pick up, there are some excellent people able to give feedback.

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She also didn't want to say 'good-bee' ...

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-lived-mother-apos-decomposing-173500718...

 

 

Woman lived with mother's decomposing body for months 'to see the stages of death'

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That's just Creepy old friend

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 Yeah, she was waiting ....

 

It's not me, I promise!  

 

I found it at US Yahoo-gle.

 Yanks are bad ... 

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I still lurk. I check ECC maybe 3 times a week.

I scrambled my password, wrote it down, and put it in my desk at work. The idea being to prevent me drunk posting.

It worked. I dont drunk post anymore.

I tried migrating to Reddit before they banned it, but they were just too clever for me there.

I think the only active foreigner forum left in China now is GoKunnming. Some good stuff there.

Like Hotwater (we joined on the same day), I massively appreciate ECC because it helped keep me sane, and I meet some great people.

BHGAL, Curiousdude, RoyceH, NZteach. Loads more who are on my wechat with meeting 'to be arranged'. Some of them single post questions who connected with me via pm to have easier discussions via wechat. Or put people in touch even.

But browsers were updated, it became cumbersome. Awkward. Control plus c before posting in case your artfull prose vanished into the ether.

Wechat is easier. But it does not get the same sort of online fight as one can get here. Doing this post here is taking me ten times longer than wechat, and I dont even know if the submit button will work.

Anyway. If you guys are happy for me to drunk post now and then, I will start posting again.

There is enough activity on this thread to show that this forum is not yet ready for its last rites.

Of course, Admin need to stop the stupid made up posts. And Admin need to stop trolling their own forum.

In any case. We owe it to Ambi. The anti smartphone, anti social media dude has been lonely.

We need help him to keep drawing his CIA stripend Smile

ScotsAlan:

It took 2 goes to post this. Max download speed was 2kb.. on second attempt. First attempt got to 155b/s. Then 404. Backspace, post still there. Try again.. tension mounts... will it go.. yup.

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And it fecking double posted. Is this site hosted on a commodore 64 in a diving bell at the bottom of the pacific, tapped into a cold war telephone line with an audio modem :-(

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Mate, feel free to drunk post as much as you want. I reckon the drunk posts are sometimes the best posts.

 

I can't be arsed with wechat myself. I use it to keep in touch with people and all that but having long winded debates and following a forum type deal there.. couldn't see myself doing it.

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'When you reply first time, you should wait few minutes for post to appear on the website and if you post the same reply 2nd time, you'll have double replies after few minutes' is my observation especially when Vnp is turned on.

Comments get posted right away and aren't doubled so often.

It is a software flaw.

Similar happened at deletion of double threads. If one thread gets deleted, double thread remains also on the block.

I tried with editing of one of the double threads before deletion, buTT.. it doesn't work. 2nd thread gets into hold doesn't matter what.

It would be helpful, if double thread title would get edited by the poster. 

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Thanks for the advice icniff. These oppo phones are neat. they have a data speed at the top left that lets you know if data is moving.

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Ha ha. Vicky posted on this thread. Complained that all her posts had been deleted.I commented. Her post was deleted.

icnif77:

I know ... more fundamentally ...  ... I would like to know, who's 'the cleaner' .. ,

 

so we could send our 'compl-imen ...', I mean, 'compl-ains'.

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That says something. I have no problem with the boss deleting posts on a private site such as this. If boss over deletes, ppl will stay away. Ditto for under deleting. its a thin line. But the fact that vicky posted, and was then deleted, pretty much indicated that the current boss cant ban or block. Boss can only delete. I have no issue with the delete button being pushed. This site does have life left in it if managed properly. What we need is grumpy cat to post here with statement of intent. If we agree with the direction, this site could one again flourish. We need to know the manifesto before we sign up to it.

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While, I agree with Mod deleting constant personal ballast as this pretentious dirtbag is. 

 

Who gives a shat about your fictional foreign (of course!) BF and you're going to 'visit him' by circling the world map with your finger ... personal shat posts without the end or break. Fokin' zOprah show ...

I might be talking to myself, Butt ... Boss has my 'up' vote! 

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Icniff... you are a republican speach writer and I claim my 10 bucks.

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I'd say 'no manifesto necessary!'. To me, it is very simple: 'Take it' or 'Leave it'!

 

I wouldn't sweat too much about posters silence. I'd say, it's the fact 'cause less foreigners/posters in China since 2017 Law amendments.

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I'll hit you with 'up', so you'll see 'It wasn't me ...' with 'down'. surprise

I hit every post here with 'up' even 'Hot's' and 'Phil's', so stop blaming moi ...

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I'm actually sort of wondering why all of Vicki's posts get deleted.

 

I understand that some people can't be bothered with her blog style posts, but some of them have generated a lot of views and discussion so they're obviously of interest to some people.

 

Let's face it, they're no more pointless than a lot of the other posts here that don't get the chop,especially in the last few months, the only reason they get deleted is because Vicki posted them. It's personal.

 

If she's not being abusive, not spamming etc I don't see the point of deleting them. If people have something to say they'll chime in, if not then the post will go unanswered, same as a lot of other pointless posts.

 

 

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@Stiggs: 'cause 'No, why!'  

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Dropping some of that clever Chinese bank teller logic on me are you?

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Icnif don't worry about sudsy's rants. ..he only posts them to remind him what he was thinking on the kitchen floor

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I had to check-up 'sudsy' ... you know, I ain't familiar with Ozz slang or otherwise ... buTT .. result of my search is  

Here we go ...

 

Title: 

Sudsy | Definition of Sudsy by Merriam-Webster

 

Virtually every single condom-snorting article mentions it—if not starts and ends by invoking sudsy trend.   

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It's just a term we use to discribe a Drunk that finds meaning to his life in a bottle of Alcohol.

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EDIT

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EDIT disregard I just decided I don't give a shit.

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Definitely dead when they’re still allowing that troll Tomas to post drivel. Bye bye again. 

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I logged in for a laugh, I miss tormenting 99Silva and other trolls. This forum never was very informative, I used it because I was bored mostly.

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