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Q: what do you think of 90's people?

I really found it's so hard to deal with them sometimes cause they all think they are the best even they are wrong and pretty hard for them to listen to your advice as well.

Today ,there's a girl who's 22 years old came to our company for interview,I did set the time for 10AM ,but she got here 11:40AM almost lunch time. I asked her,how come you got here so late? guess what she said to me,I could not get up that early,whattttttttttt , I was spending all my lunch time to interview her,No lunch and no rest.TAO YAN !!!

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I guess it depends on which city you are in Maggie. Here in Nanning I can't say I have ever met any really obnoxious ones, most of them seem ok. Perhaps it is more of a first tier city thing? As far as your interviewee turning up that late I would have said to her to go back home and don't come back, if she can't even get to a job interview on time how on earth would she ever make it into work on time and how reliable would she be once there?

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90's people?

 

Invariably I find them young, VERY young!

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Ha! "I couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to get here for the interview. Now give me a job."

 

She starts on Monday? 

GuilinRaf:

"Oh! And I want a raise too!!!!"

 

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LAR:

GR..oh, what about benefits?! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^ Oh, and throw in a free lunch everyday too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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maggiegirly:

I don't think I would get someone like her to join my team even her Englishs great.

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My HS. students are  in that particular age cohort. About two weeks ago I was giving lecture and afterwards I asked one of my students a question based around what I had just been talking about. She then stood up, said "I'm sorry, I cannot answer your question. I was not paying attention because I was doing my math homework." She then sat back down and went back to here math as if that was a perfectly acceptable thing to do. As Pogger would say, I hulked out. I took the worksheet and math book away from her, threw it out of the classroom's third story window, and yelled--yelled!-- at her for 20 minutes. And the sad part is that I had too. If I let her off easy, or let it slide, then they would all do it.       

 

Also why didn't you just cancel the interview? I mean, you probably new you weren't going to hire her after she said she couldn't be in before 11 because she was sleeping. You should have just accepted her resume and told her you'd be in touch. You could have had your lunch on time and you'd never have had to see this infuriating little adult child again.  

MissA:

Bring a lighter along in future? Set one of the kids' maths homework on fire, it wouldn't happen again.

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I would have told reception to tell her to wait in the lobby and I'd have went to lunch, when I returned, if she was still there, I would have told her she'd missed her interview it was at 10am.

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@ Pogger: I've heard of those douche bags from Shanghai five kids from Shanghai. It's actually Li Gong's son and a few of his friends.

 

@  MissA: Did exactly what you are suggesting in a high school job two years ago. Here is the problem with that; what do you do after you've lit it? Although there was a lot of it, that thin paper burns really quickly. You can't hold it. Shaking it only puts burning bits of paper into the air around other people's children. Anyway, the school's administration was none too happy with me for starting a small fire in a trash can and headmaster actually ended up apologizing to to boy's parents.  

 

@ Hugh. Your's is better, with the caveat that you're risking an adult temper tantrum.

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Excellent Matt!!!!!!!!!!! I would have LOVED..NO, I WOULD HAVE PAID to see you going off for 20 scintillating.lovely minutes on that stuck-up Chinese *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol :) In fact, she reminds me of a certain Chinese,obnoxious,rude,disrespectful  B**** that posts on this website!!!!!! Oh yeah!!!!!!!!! I also would have loved to see the book,etc. go flying out the classroom window. But, it's also the same SHITTY,RUDE attitude that I've encountered with some Chinese D***H*** university students..like today once again just walking across the campus after class with one of my students..AND this little F****T-A** PUTO MALE KNOB WITH A STUPID LOOK ON HIS FACE IN HIS LITTLE F****T-A** POSSE MAKING HIS STUPID COMMENTS!!! TYPICAL ARROGANT,DISRESPECTFUL PUNK..HAS TO BE WITH HIS GRADE-SCHOOL MENTALITY BOYZ!!!!!

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MissA:

Set it on fire, then throw it out the window for double effect?

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I can see the headlines for that one now. Foreigner Attacks Chemistry Teacher With Flaming Math Book! I'd probably end up China Smack.

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LAR:

"Set...................................effect?" Oh man, that's the shit MissA!!! LOL LOL!!! Oh, and you'd HAVE TO film that in slo-mo on time-extend..really draw out the time sequence..I'D LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Ha ha ha!!!  

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I think every generation thinks the same of the younger pups. I find the sense of entitlement amongst this generation appalling, but I'm also pretty sure that the generation before me found my sense of entitlement appalling.

 

'Generation X', 'The "Lost" Generation', 'The "Me" Generation', DINKS (Double Income, No KidS), 'Yuppies', etc. Nothing is as good as it used to be...yada yada yada.

 

I think as I get older, and I must become more responsible, it seems that I become less tolerant and understanding of those who are where I was when I was their age (does that make any sense?)

MissA:

I've just become a DINK (well, half a dink), 'Tis awesome!

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"The Me generation" and the Yuppies were actually the same group of people. They were late period baby boomer's (of Forest Gump's ilk) that were Baby Bolsheviks in college, nominated McGovern, then moved to the cities, became Reaganite investment bankers and corporate lawyers. Remember a "Yuppie" is a young urban professional. These people are seriously the absolute worst. The earlier half of the Boomers, the "silent" generation--people who came of age during the Korean War--weren't much better. They were the ones that really support Richard Nixon and the Vietnam war, although they did support the Great Society and (eventually) got behind civil rights.

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Us grownups would have asked that girl to go home. You don't show up late for a job interview (or early for that matter. 

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Young people between the ages of 25 - 30 generally believe that they know everything, that they have been everywhere, that they are the master of all sciences and the fond of all wisdom.  Sometimes it can be quite painful for the persons around them who are not of the same age bracket.  It's not a 90's thing but rather a generational thing.

mattsm84:

Maybe it's difficult for you to be around these people because they actually are smarter than you. As a person between those ages I can tell you two things I do know. 

 

1) Most Chinese determine age cohort by decade. "Post-1980s generation" and "90s generation" are the terms that they tend to use to describe groups of young people when they discuss the effects of particular policy decisions, in this case the one child policy. Many Chinese believe that that policy is the root cause of this behavior as these kids are understood to be the single children of of two parents who are themselves the only children of their parents.

 

2) As 2012 minus 1990 is only 22, there is absolutely no overlap between what you're talking about and what the rest of talking about.

 

Perhaps if you were a little more fond of wisdom yourself you'd have a tighter grasp on the people you live around and posses some basic computational skills.

 

Anyway, down vote. 

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giadrosich:

Good deflection, but rather meaningless as a rebuttal.

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Yes, like so much of what numbers writes its devoid of any real substance, but I'm not even sure that it can be considered a good deflection? I mean, sure, we're talking about it now, but he basically caught me acknowledging the existence of an a social underclass in the United States, then used it as chance to invoke Godwin's law. It just ends up looking so sad and desperate that it's not even good trolling, but a caricature of what a troll might look like. Like I said earlier, maybe he just doesn't like hanging out with people that are brighter than he is.   

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If you think that I was being racist then congratulations on learning how to correctly operate a keyboard. It must have been fairly difficult for you.

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Mattscmd, I have no problem interacting with you as long as you keep it within the bounds of civility and bereft of personal attacks.  I believe that you received the same warning message from the Moderator as I did concerning blatant personal attacks and somehow I feel that you have regressed on this issue,  You are welcome to your opinions, as am I, and I hope that you will again return to the confines of normalcy and decency.  I for one do not intend to get banned by interacting with you when you post these kind of attacks.  That is all I have to say to you now on this issue.

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mattsm84:

That's right. Hide behind teacher's skirt. Never mind that my original reply, which was germane to both your answer and the OP's question, compelled you to imply that I was a nazi pretty quickly. Why exactly do you think it is that you get so many down votes? Or why whenever there is a spat between two member's here, one of them is always you? Maybe the problems you have with other people, be it people between 25 and 30 or other member's on this board, have more to do with a problem with you then a problem with them. I hope this conversation does get the mod's attention, because the more times you get involved in stuff like this, the clearer a pattern becomes. And when that happens, maybe the rest of us will be rid of you.

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LAR:

"Young..............everything." Hmm, I think that's stretching it a bit. I kindly suggest a 'rethink' on those words.

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They're like any other age group with some good and some bad.

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A bunch of lousy plaid-wearing slackers, too busy listening to their grunges and drinking coffee on large couches to be productive members of society. I say bring back the draft and give em a few years in Nam to straighten them up.

MissA:

Vietnam is not the place to cure them young folks of their coffee addiction - my year there did help cure me of my love of grunges and couches though.

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It mainly depends upon  upbringing..

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Ahh

The Y generation

Why do I have to do this?

Why do I have to do that?

Why don.t they give me money for doing nothing

Why can't you do it for me?

Why Why Why????????

 

Yes I have kids of this age

So I ask myself

Why didn't' I use birth control ?no

LAR:

Oh, and then Phil there's the young Chinese females I'm always reading about infamously making their "No WHY" comments!!!!!!!!

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Normally,I'd say,sorry,You miss the chance.but once I said that to a 90's girl and she started crying straight away.I was like,oh no ,did I hurt you?

You know,I hate seeing people cry,it really drives me crazy,that's why I did interview this girl even she got here so late. to be honest,her English's great.But I don't think I would offer her the job.

crimochina:

so let them cry. simply tell them to cry while leaving . toughen up !!!!!!!sad

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Scandinavian:

If you don't like seeing people cry them tell them to go away and cry somewhere else. If you have a job to do, you need to be able to plan your time to be able to do your job satisfactory.

if you have an appointment, and the person shows up late you have done nothing wrong, the other person is responsible for herself.

 

Note: If, in this case, the girl had phone prior to the meeting time and said "sorry, I am going to be late due to traffic bla bla" then it would have been a different story. 

 

 

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your handling of that girl is the exact reason why they behave the way they do. for some god damn reason there are no consequences for bad behavior unless it becomes a public scandal. if she comes in late with that excuse , tell her goodbye and do not re-apply. why are chinese people afraid to lay down the law? give a class an assignment. tell them what they are supposed to do, how it should be (edit:done, and when it's due. if a student does not comply , they still expect to get credit. i have no trouble telling a student "no". i have no problem telling anyone about themselves.

a perfect example, a student misses 9 out of 12 classes, completes no assignments, but yet they think they are going to pass the class. 

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You still interviewed her? You should have told her to go away and come back when she is a grown-up. 

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i think you should ask her to go back her bed.Then you can enjoy your lunch time.

LAR:

Yuk yuk effort..I'm down with that girl..ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Good one..and I would add "Yeah..take your LAZY *** back to bed!"

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