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Q: What penalty you get for overstaying your visa in China?

12 years 27 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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 Nobody ever came back and tell us ...

It must be 'No-why' ...

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Depends on how long you have let it go, You can be deported and recieve a black mark, fined 500RMB per day of the breach. If you have not renewd your visa go and fix it up now! They will probably put you in goal if you have let it go a month! You can google it and read all sorts of things that have happened to overstayers.

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in goal?

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It depends on how long you overstay your visa and your nationality. Americans and Brits usually receive higher fines than other foreigners. It will be a certain amount of money per day of your overstay. I've heard also that they won't do anything for a while and then catch you if you travel or use your passport for something. You should definitely go to the local PSB and get it taken care of before the authorities come to you.

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Tea 500 a day.. max 5000 but you will be blacklisted...

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It's been changed to 10,000 as a max, not 5000. July 1st 2013

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If you overstay your visa, two things will happen, one is you will have to explain why many times (they assume you do not respect them and that is why you overstay, so better to give a reason that shows lots of "respect"). Once the interview and paperwork is done, you will be fined an amount determined by them (500 Rmb per day overstayed), plus given a written warning stating "one more time and you will be out of China permanently. This warning is good for two years. Depending on severity of violation and your attitude while interviewed, you may even be deported and denied further visas to enter China.

Please allow me a little story here that shows how system work. Dates used are not the real dates.
I entered China at midday of May 20, 2011 on a 90 days stay visa. Accordingly, I was supposed to depart prior to August 18, 2011 at the lattest. I assumed I had until midnight of August 18 to depart, so I tried to exit China at 12:23 pm on the 08-18-2011, and was detained for overstaying my visa. I spent over 4 hours at the border post in interviews and consultations with higher ups. My argument was I enter on May 20, I can depart before August 18 at midnight and comply with law. Their argument was I enter on May 20 at 12:00 (mid day), I had to depart on August 18 before midday to comply with 90 day stay provision of visa.
The way this work is their computer has my date of entry, the time of entry, and number of days of stay on my visa, and calculates automatically if it is OK for me to leave (if within stay authorization) or if I overstayed. In my case, a little square on the computer screen that says "DEPARTURE : OK or overstayed" at midaday changed from OK to OVERSTAYED, so I had to receive punishment.
To make a long story short, higher ups decided that in this case it was an honest mistake,, no desire to break the regulation since I was only 23 minutes late in departing, so no monetary fine, but a written warning good for 2 years that I will not ever overstay my visa in those two years. It says it will be removed in August of 2013 from my file.

So guess what, it is not only the date, but also the time of departure that is important. So, I made a point to enter China always at night, and depart only during day time to avoid any future problems.

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overstay max fine 5000, blacklisted

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I did this by accident this year, my visa expired on 14Jan 2013 but last years expired on 22 Jan 2012, and as I was looking at it in Dec 2012 I thought yeah 22 Jan that's fine! It was only when my wife looked on 14 Jan we realised we were late.

 

So we went to the PSB (after contacting all our contacts who told us 500RMB fine) and found the staff in Nanning PSB have changed, for the last two years they were brusque, Chinese only, efficient but worked hard at being unhelpful. This year, there was a new woman (wearing one 'pip' on her uniform) and she spoke excellent English, explained everything to those in front of us in the queue in English, was generally very helpful, it was a huge shock. It also appeared to have rubbed off on the other staff who I remembered from my previous visits as low and behold, last year they couldn't / wouldn't speak a word of English now they too were super helpful! Anyway, they spoke to my wife (in Chinese) I apologised, claimed stupidity, they laughed, I signed a document (in Chinese and English) saying I knew I was in the wrong, and giving my reasons (I wrote them) and they waived the fine and gave me an 18 month visa / residency permit.

 

I don't often praise Chinese bureaucracy but the PSB in Nanning, (on this day at least) were superb.

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I made a post a while back with all of the new visa laws.  Here is the link again.  Yes, this is from Shanghai, but it's national:

 

http://www.fdi-law.com/en/view.php?id=2624&goback=.gde_36656_member_2013...

 

There have been a lot of changes, and according to the new regulations (which go in effect this year, July I believe):

 

A warning will be given to foreigners illegally residing in China and a serious breach will lead to a fine of Rmb500 ($75) per day, which is capped at Rmb10,000 ($1,500), doubling the previous cap of Rmb5,000, or imprisonment of five to 15 days, up from the previous three to 10 days.

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5000 RMB is the most limit you can pay no matter how many days you overstayed. I can  get  the following countries one year M or L visa  at the cost of a few thousand RMB 

 

Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, brunei, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Santa marta linuo, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK.

if you need a M or L visa for one year, contact this email charityzx@hotmail.com

 

ironman510:

Visa agents who claim to be able to procure visa' are outlawed in China (again, I stated this back in July) for this very reason. They simply do not have the authority to get a visa - no matter what they tell you. They are nothing more than charlatans, sharks, used car salesman, ticket touts or any other scum who prey on the needs of others. Agents like FBT in HK are reputable go-between who do not claim to be able to get you anything. They act as an agent on your behalf to apply for you - that is all. There is no guarantee they will be successful, nor do they claim such - learn the difference. Any who do should be flayed alive and left out on pikes as an example to others. Wise up foreigners they always say 'you're are easily fooled' try proving them wrong eh, and get smart.

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What penalty will my brother from Uganda get after he was arrested for over staying in China for over five years?

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My guess would be some time in jail, maybe 2 weeks. A fine of around 10,000 - 15,000 RMB. Deportation and blacklisting. That's just a guess.

He will definitely be deported and blacklisted for 5 years if not indefinitely. He'll be fined. He may go to jail.

icnif77:

Older posts state above 'max 5000 Rmb'.

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Hotwater:

@ icnif, older posts above are out of date. Didn't zero hedge TELL you the new fines?

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I think we can all agree that the over-stayer won't be the guest of honour at the PSB's annual Christmas function. Deportation, blacklisting, fine and probable incarceration.

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http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2015/09-21/181956.shtml

 

"I always feel like, somebody's watching me".

 

I guess the song was ahead of its time.

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In real, somebody's 'Police'-ing us ....surprise

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we've been waiting five years

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The truth is that if you overstay your visa you will work at Happy Giraffe English.

icnif77:

Are you required to wear special outfit at Giraffe? 

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iWolf:

I believe there is requirements to wear their corporate costume and sometimes don the hapoy girraffe mascot costume. Presumably it's a giraffe but in this joint who knows. Thw most important requirement, however, is to leave your dignity at the door.

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icnif77:

I thought you meant ''giraffe's an outfit as in prison ..'' 

 

I mix it up 'giraffe' with 'zebra' ....

 

 

mammal,nature,animal,wild,portrait,wildlife,head,zebra,stripe,zoo,safari,barbaric,hair,color,desktop,beautiful,face,young

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iWolf:

Apparently it is similar to prison but with singing and dancing.

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icnif77:

Ohh ..  ..you see, even with  the wrong animal, I was on  our topic-sss...

 

Good morning! surprise

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