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Q: are there schools hiring for a non native to be a teacher in China?

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I’m from Iran with an MA in English Language Studies, and over 30 years of teaching experience across four different countries. I’ve got all the right qualifications and qualities to be a solid pick for a teaching job here.Things were pretty straightforward when I first got here three years ago, but honestly, stuff has changed a lot. Even my current university is letting me go just because of my nationality. It feels like native speakers get way more preference over actual qualifications and experience, and it’s really upsetting. It's even more upsetting when you're alwyts  well-liked by your students and staff,yet your employer still lets you go becuase of your nationality.  Funny enough, my native‑speaker coworkers always come to me for tips on teaching and classroom management. I just don’t get it. They won’t even interview you half the time .They just turn you down right away and hire native speakers instead.

icnif77:

You're measuring from the wrong corner ...! 

English teaching working experience means a squat!

 

Nobody is saying (... or even doubting ...), you aren't a good English teacher!

 

It is the 'Law-of-the-Land', which prevents legal employment of non-native English teachers in China.

You could never obtain Working permit in China as a non-English native passport holder since June 2017, with or without School's quanxi, unless you hold BA completed in a native English country.

Native English passport requirement at English teaching jobs is the same everywhere around the world.

China, Russia, Armenia, Turkey, Spain, Portugal ..., where I've tried, ... and at the last two countries, I don't need too many permits, 'cause I hold EU passport, i.e. I could literally start legally working in the classroom few hours after the initial interview ... on the contrary to all native English teachers, who need " '77'-or-more ...' permits to legally undertake any paid work in EU.

 

  ". just get another profession ...  is the only 'short-cut' available! broken heart

 

https://www.grammar.com/a-vs-an-when-to-use

 

"... let-me- 'P.S.' - you ..."

 

Non-native English teachers should look from a different perspective ...

 

"How would you fancy non-native teacher of Farsi, originally from Madagascar or Botswana?"

 

  ROTF  & broken heart LM-b-AO  

i.e. " rollin'-on-the-floor-in' " & " laughin'-me-Botswanian-arse-off "

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English instruction is on a downward trend across the country. Universities are reducing budgets, cutting staff, and dropping English altogether as a major. My university is going from having 5 Foreign English Teachers this year to having only 1 next year.

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It started in 2015 or 16, when Chinese .gov reduced points, i.e. importance of English language at Gaokao Exam.

I accepted coaching job for the General IELTS Exam prep. at that time. My students were all planning to enroll in colleges in different native English countries.

No more Gaokao English score scare, which till then was a major issue among Chinese students, hence demand for a native English teachers was sky high.

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 I'd say, written and spoken English count the most ... surprise

 

 

... at non-English native sneakers ... broken heart

 

... out of which, you are clearly the one ...! surprise

 

... Dolores O'Riordan with stick 'Shattered' blasting through me i-Tunes ...

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I've seen ads for non-natives, but those typically are also the jobs that tell you that it's ok to teach on a business visa... (it isn't)

icnif77:

There're not too many non-native English sneakers around ...

   ... since you've left!  

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Maybe not many European non-native speakers, but there are all kinds of people from Africa and the Middle East. There’s been a massive demographic shift over the last five years or so.

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Working legality for non-English native teachers is an immense problem in China.

Requirement of holding BA degree completed in a native English country place non-native English-ers almost on pair with native English teachers, what is a correct requirement.

It's the same anywhere you go around the globe, but there are not too many such non-native English chaps ...

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I’m from Iran with an MA in English Language Studies, and over 30 years of teaching experience across four different countries. I’ve got all the right qualifications and qualities to be a solid pick for a teaching job here.Things were pretty straightforward when I first got here three years ago, but honestly, stuff has changed a lot. Even my current university is letting me go just because of my nationality. It feels like native speakers get way more preference over actual qualifications and experience, and it’s really upsetting. It's even more upsetting when you're alwyts  well-liked by your students and staff,yet your employer still lets you go becuase of your nationality.  Funny enough, my native‑speaker coworkers always come to me for tips on teaching and classroom management. I just don’t get it. They won’t even interview you half the time .They just turn you down right away and hire native speakers instead.

icnif77:

You're measuring from the wrong corner ...! 

English teaching working experience means a squat!

 

Nobody is saying (... or even doubting ...), you aren't a good English teacher!

 

It is the 'Law-of-the-Land', which prevents legal employment of non-native English teachers in China.

You could never obtain Working permit in China as a non-English native passport holder since June 2017, with or without School's quanxi, unless you hold BA completed in a native English country.

Native English passport requirement at English teaching jobs is the same everywhere around the world.

China, Russia, Armenia, Turkey, Spain, Portugal ..., where I've tried, ... and at the last two countries, I don't need too many permits, 'cause I hold EU passport, i.e. I could literally start legally working in the classroom few hours after the initial interview ... on the contrary to all native English teachers, who need " '77'-or-more ...' permits to legally undertake any paid work in EU.

 

  ". just get another profession ...  is the only 'short-cut' available! broken heart

 

https://www.grammar.com/a-vs-an-when-to-use

 

"... let-me- 'P.S.' - you ..."

 

Non-native English teachers should look from a different perspective ...

 

"How would you fancy non-native teacher of Farsi, originally from Madagascar or Botswana?"

 

  ROTF  & broken heart LM-b-AO  

i.e. " rollin'-on-the-floor-in' " & " laughin'-me-Botswanian-arse-off "

5 weeks 1 day ago
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Spiderboenz:

English instruction is on a downward trend across the country. Universities are reducing budgets, cutting staff, and dropping English altogether as a major. My university is going from having 5 Foreign English Teachers this year to having only 1 next year.

5 weeks 20 hours ago
Report Abuse

icnif77:

It started in 2015 or 16, when Chinese .gov reduced points, i.e. importance of English language at Gaokao Exam.

I accepted coaching job for the General IELTS Exam prep. at that time. My students were all planning to enroll in colleges in different native English countries.

No more Gaokao English score scare, which till then was a major issue among Chinese students, hence demand for a native English teachers was sky high.

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A: Nobody can tell you that! You could look at no-response-time in t
A:Nobody can tell you that! You could look at no-response-time in two ways: 1. 'Nobody is interested in your CV and hiring you ...'; or 2. 'Never, ever stop sending your CV to the daily posted job openings and simply disregard no-replies thingy!' It's wrong, to expect replies from the Chinese advertisers of a new job openings, 'cause Chinese don't behave same as western recruiters by replying: "Thank you for your job application. Unfortunately, you weren't selected at this time. We'll keep your CV on record and if new opportunity arises..." or something in those lines. So, the only remaining choice is no. 2. Looking for the new (non-native E.T.) position in my time in China was like a daily part-time job.  Good luck! -- icnif77