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Q: Can a dependent with Z visa work?

Hi, I am new to Shanghai but my 2nd trip to China. I am here on a dependent visa(z). Is it legal to find a job as a dependent? Earlier worked in Harbin as an English teacher 4 years ago? Any suggestions/ experiences appreciated! 

10 years 45 weeks ago in  General  - Shanghai

 
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Legally NO,you can not unless you get a Z visa issued to you.  As a lawful dependent of another person holding a Z visa all you can legally do is enter China and reside with that person, nothing else.

avinashp:

I have a Z visa issued ofcourse as a dependant..will that be any good? Thank you,

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Since the paperwork for a legal visa is enormous, many companies will prefer to bribe local authorities to not arrest you (immigration police 'educates' the company when they visit). It's the arrangement I currently work under, but it's hardly as safe as legal work. Bribes only work as long as you are not given any negative attention, like getting into an argument on the streets with an old ayi who wants money from the foreigner who hurt her. If you lose your cool, you'll be hated by the public, and police will be forced to deport you despite bribes collected. Anyway, I don't work in a major city, so I don't know if the bribery system is less prevalent there. Whatever the case, a legal work visa is always better.

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Happy is right. My advice is to make the dependent also enter with a Zombie visa. If you both have a z, you can both work.

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there should be plenty of work in Shanghai for you to get a "Z" visa no problem

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Indeed, and this is the end of the year, and for many well-known reasons, all of the local PSB's become remarkably more vigilent this time of year.

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A: No, it's not allowed to work under RP at 2nd job! I'd say, Z visa
A:No, it's not allowed to work under RP at 2nd job! I'd say, Z visa/RP sponsor can have an objections to your part-time job. I did the same at my English teaching in China and elsewhere, butT ... I casually mentioned at my prime job, some kindergarten or another school asked me to work with them part-time. Then, my Q: "Is that permitted?" ...  Answer from RP sponsor was always "Yes, but you can't be late or miss the classes at our school ..." with my reply: "No, our work schedule has a priority, and I'll arrange classes at kindergarten only in my free time." When I cleared that, I was undertaking any extra teaching hours at other schools and private students in my free time.Sometimes, teachers at my prime job asked me if I'm willing to have some extra classes elsewhere.I accepted after the talk with School's principal. I suggest, you test the felling at your Z/RP sponsor and once you see they don't object, you can work at 2nd job. Keeping your 2nd job as a secret from your employer won't work, 'cause you're laowai and Chinese know exactly what you do in your free time. However, despite your employer's agreement for extra work, you are still in violation of Chinese Labour law, and even if your sponsor agrees to your extra work, you can still get in trouble, because it's clearly written (somewhere ... ) that under Z/WP, one can work only at the Z-sponsor and nowhere else. Penalties ... I'd say, there won't be any warnings and you'll be required to exit China in short Exit time.It never happened to me, so I can't really advice how is when manure hits the fan ...  -- icnif77