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Q: The End Of English Exams in......
I'm sure some have heard the new policies, let's review the basic in simple English:
1. Foreign teachers abroad can't teach Chinese students online after August 11th. ViPkids letter is posted on Facebook Online job groups, you can find it there.
2. Training Centers can't teach kids on weekends and holidays. Thus are not allowed to employ foreigners. (Some can like Wall Street English) Most can't now.
Now for the best that's saved for last:
New & Official: There will be no more English exams starting this semester, so that means no more Foreign teachers in public schools. Slowly but surely there won't be anymore foreigners teaching in public schools, don't confuse this with private schools, I'm talking about government public schools.
Shanghai and Shenzhen have already started to inform schools about this.
Tid bits to add:
Kindergartens will Slowly be only public Kindergartens, not private.
2. International or private schools can't teach overseas curriculums or books like Oxford. Must use the same books as public schools.
So keep fighting the good fight to work China.
2 years 36 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
From the end of 1970s, learning English has been more and more popular for almost 45 years... Before that it was about learning Russian.
Maybe in the future to come, it'll be more about learning Mandarin and own history and philosophy. (I'm saying us ourselves)
One can never beat the cycle of histories and the cycle of Economy. This is how I see it.
Parents will switch to more private, more small-sized and more expensive English tutoring... Who can deny this means opportunities to some?
ironman510:
You're absolutely right what was once the training centers is now ours.
icnif77:
Laowai needs visa sponsor or has to be married to Chinese for LT stay in China and conducting private lessons, i.e. ... foreign English tutors in China will be scarce ...
The demand for English learning in China will also slow down ...
Well Ironman, you are partially correct in your statements. Sadly, you do not fully grasp the details that are in the policy. Nevertheless, it was a nice summary of an interpretation of the policy. I do agree that foreigners should be concerned about the future in China for us. As with all policies from the government, it should be a wait and see. Sometimes the paper tiger is just that. How many policies have we seen over the years where it seemed serious, yet in a matter of days, weeks or months, the policy goes largely ignored or changed? There are loopholes that are being look at in this new policy, such as teaching drama styled English, and being able to teach to a level equal or less than the child's current grade level (just can not go above it).
ironman510:
Yep styles will change. Everything I stated was in our HR educational city meeting, all schools and myself attended. So think what you want. You danced around my message above. Sure loopholes are a natural. I've heard the drama plans, that was mentioned too and won't be allowed too. Keep trying to be right man, cheers.
icnif77:
I am with Ironman on this one ... Policy against foreign English teachers working in China will come into effect swiftly.
Chinese parents will turn toward the private tutoring, but remember any foreigner must have full time job with sponsored Z first, i.e. set visa/RP or be married to Chinese to be able to part-time in free time.
I mean, it will be fruitless to come to China with F visa and look for the private students ...
The other thing is, once Chinese gov. made English language less important at the exams, most of you (laowai English teachers) aren't needed anymore. Just remember the relaxed student's faces when English language subject lost points at gaokao exam ... around 2015, if I am right.
Never mind China (if not married to Chinese)!
Native English passport holders can get the same job just about anywhere around the world, except ...
... don't go to Russia or Turkey 'cause you'll starve ...
Official Notice for Qkids today, can find them on wechat Official account, anyway gives an example of online education.
Dear parents and friends,
Qkids Jiuqu firmly supports the decision and deployment of the CPC Central Committee and The State Council, strictly implements the spirit and requirements of the "double reduction" opinion, and has made the following adjustments to the original products and businesses:
1. From 24:00 on August 10, 2021, the online courses taught by foreign teachers will stop selling.
2. The purchased courses will not be affected. Please feel free to attend classes. Jiuqu will continue to provide students with high quality teaching services to ensure the normal performance of the contract.
3. Courses for overseas students and related international business will not be affected.
4. In late August 2021, "Chinese oral language class" and other quality education courses for children will be launched.
Since its establishment six years ago, Jiuqu insists on good reputation, and continues to launch a series of educational products including "Jiuqu English", "Jiuqu Thinking" and "Jiuqu Art" with the price of people and the standard of excellence, and has been recognized and loved by the majority of students and parents. Here, I sincerely thank you all for your trust and support!
In the future, we will continue to stick to the essence of education and the original aspiration of education, serve students and parents wholeheartedly, and make unremitting efforts to realize the vision of "let every child enjoy quality education".
Thank you for choosing long fun, Thanksgiving accompanied by growth!
VipKids Announcement:
Tencent Holdings-backed Chinese education firm VIPKid said on Saturday it would stop selling classes taught by foreign-based tutors to students in China with immediate effect to comply with new rules announced for the country's private education sector.
China last month issued rules barring curriculum-based tutoring for profit, aiming to ease financial pressures that have contributed to low birth rates but have left private education firms facing significant business impact.
The rules also ban companies from employing foreign-based tutors, aiming to stop long-distance lessons for Chinese students.
Beijing-based VIPKid is an online education platform that connects children in China with native English-speaking teachers in the United States and Canada for live video lessons.
The company said in a post on its official WeChat account that customers who had already purchased packages would still be able to take classes but existing customers will only be able to renew classes taught by overseas-based tutors until Aug. 9.
It added that its international business for students outside China would not be affected.
Other Chinese private education firms have also been reviewing their operations as a result of the new rules. ByteDance also plans to close some of its tutoring operations, including its online classes app GogoKid, a VIPKid rival.
VIPKid's investors include Tencent Holdings, China's largest gaming and social media company.
icnif77:
I read reports at Zero about all these prohibitions a week or so ago. Few days ago, I posted Zero's report about prohibition implied toward Tencent and it got deleted by big Admin with message " ... spam and stay on topic ..".
I posted news about Tencent at my own "Is there a lack of Native English teachers in China" thread and I got accused I ain't on topic. 
Remember, ZeroHedge posts the news always first ...
Was exchanging PMs with Chinese poster here and he was asking me what impact will these tutoring prohibitions have toward his Uni. and I replied: "I don't know ...I just read the news ... ".
You cleared that and since big meetings started to happening big change toward laowai English teaching, tutoring is also coming ..., i.e. pack yer bags ...
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/03/tencent-netease-shares-tank-after-chines...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/aug/03/chinas-tencent-tightens...
https://talkmarkets.com/content/global-markets/beijing-denounces-video-g...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tencent-shares-tumble-wechat-removed-c...
This isn't even the first China crackdown news this week. Yesterday, one of Beijing's tech regulators (seems like there are so many) the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, announced that Chinese companies would soon be forced to end what Beijing described as "the malicious blocking o website links". Analysts warned afterwards that "everyone is in the crosshairs".
Over the last nine months, President Xi Jinping has presided over a crackdown of China's tech industry that started when Beijing scrapped the Ant Group IPO - what would have been the biggest IPO ever - after Alibaba founder (and Ant Group chief) Jack Ma angered the Politburo with complaints about China's regulatory framework, which Ma said stifled innovation.
Since then, Alibaba has hit with a massive $2.8 billion fine, while Ant Group and other companies with fintech operations have been forced to apply for a banking license, subjecting them to cumbersome regulations that will likely limit their growth, and their ability to compete.
Tencent sank 9% on Tuesday, its biggest drop since October 2011, and the latest example of panic selling that has afflicted many Chinese stocks.
So many unintended cosequences to this, I can't type them all. The idea that you don't want to crash your overpriced housing to free up money for working class families to spend more on kids and less on shelter is going to be a big mistake. So many teachers make the mortgage payment from teaching outside classes.
It seems the mafia pyramid corporation called China is circling the wagons to save power while the rug gets pulled out by factories migrating to India, demographics, dependence on foreign natural resources, all neighbors arming up to the teeth, and English speaking talent leaving with currency. Don't see a good outcome any time soon.
icnif77:
I'd say, it's a result of decoupling with Chinese reply "... we'll strong-arm everyone around the globe ...".
Verrick:
The extracurriculur education industry was far more overpriced than the housing market. At least houses are useful, a lot of the training centers that are closing were not.
I can understanding spending half of your income on a mortgage but some of these parents were spending half of their income on their child's education. Considering a good education is free in the west and a house is not. I can see why the government took action.
ambivalentmace:
Schools are free to the 9th grade in China, but an oversupply of labor keeps wages low for college graduates. The result is try and get an edge with extra classes and people stupidly believe this crap. As a former teacher, the rich lazy kids in my classes were useless and might as well stay at home with video games and let the parents upgrade the BMW 5 series to a seven series.
yes, icnif77, when you screw up a virus and decide you are not going down alone and spread the misery to the whole world, the whole world is not going to forget that, the crooked leaders may kowtow for money, but the populace will talk shit about you for a century. Tough nut to crack.
icnif77:
That's in past tense, i.e. the virus. Everywhere in the world everyone is affected by the Cofid ...
That will stay on China for long time coming ... I just read, that India had already inoculated half a billion people against Cofid.
I've always read such high numbers only from China ...
Now, Cofid spread was done intentionally as per that Yahoo comment I posted somewhere here 6-m or so ago. Chinese will never be able to wash off this one unless something worse is coming our way.
From the end of 1970s, learning English has been more and more popular for almost 45 years... Before that it was about learning Russian.
Maybe in the future to come, it'll be more about learning Mandarin and own history and philosophy. (I'm saying us ourselves)
One can never beat the cycle of histories and the cycle of Economy. This is how I see it.
Parents will switch to more private, more small-sized and more expensive English tutoring... Who can deny this means opportunities to some?
ironman510:
You're absolutely right what was once the training centers is now ours.
icnif77:
Laowai needs visa sponsor or has to be married to Chinese for LT stay in China and conducting private lessons, i.e. ... foreign English tutors in China will be scarce ...
The demand for English learning in China will also slow down ...
This smells like a Cultural Revolution 2.0, sort of. The crackdown on English teaching is was envisageable anyway, from the very first days of the Coronavirus outbreak. I remember to have also posted a question on how it may impact the teaching industry. Answers went around "let's see" and hopes and optimism. I was quite skeptical and I am being confirmed that I was not that wrong. Unfortunately.
