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There are a lot of stories going around the internet now about how how China did this or that, the US did that and this and the financial elite are behind it, the UN are behind it, it's a plot to reduce the world population, it's a plot to bring in one world government, 5g towers are causing it, sinners are causing it, Mother Earth - Gaia - is causing it, it's the Christian rapture, it's the Commies, the Capitalists, the anti Trumpers trying to make him look bad... most of them sound batshit crazy to me but they literally all have a few links with some expert being interviewed as proof so hell,what do I know?

 

 

At the end of the day though, it started in China and spread to the rest of the world. It didn't need to become a big problem in China but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so China ignored the scientists.

 

And then it became a big problem in Iran. It probably didn't need to become a big problem there either but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so Iran ignored the scientists.

 

And then it became a big problem in Europe. It probably didn't need to become a big problem there either but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so Europe ignored the scientists.

 

And then it became a big problem in North America. It probably didn't need to become a big problem there either but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so North America ignored the scientists.

 

And the rest of the world is pretty much following the trend.

 

When everyone is doing the same thing while pointing the finger at everyone else I really think going down the blame game road is pointless. We can and should be working together and looking at what needs to happen to make sure there isn't a covid20 instead.

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It is disturbing how many d1ckhead5 there are running this shit show and how eager they are to score a cheap pointless political point when that should be the absolute last thing they should be doing. No one is innocent but some are much more guilty than others. Hopefully in the post-corona world a reckoning will rain down on those aforementioned d1ckhead5.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/calls-mount-investigation-who-participating-chinas-coronavirus-coverup

 

On Tuesday, Florida Senator Rick Scott (R) issued a statement conveying demanding accountability over the WHO's handling of the crisis, according to American Military News.

"The mission of the WHO is to get public health information to the world so every country can make the best decisions to keep their citizens safe. When it comes to Coronavirus, the WHO failed. They need to be held accountable for their role in promoting misinformation and helping Communist China cover up a global pandemic," said Scott. "We know Communist China is lying about how many cases and deaths they have, what they knew and when they knew it – and the WHO never bothered to investigate further. Their inaction cost lives."

Also calling for WHO to be held accountable is Gen. Rob Spalding (Ret.), who wrote in the same publication that "The first global war of the 21st century began in December without a shot fired. A Wuhan doctor in China noticed some patients admitted to the hospital were exhibiting viral pneumonia consistent with SARS. Only it wasn’t SARS. When he tried to sound the alarm, he triggered the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) authoritarian control on information. Discussion of the illness was prohibited, and the doctor – who tried to warn colleagues through social media – was detained. The results of patient samples that had been sequenced to reveal their genomes were quickly squashed, and the samples destroyed before the results could be made public."

The WHO was notified early on, but they were prevented by the CCP to travel to Wuhan. Meanwhile, the CCP denied there was any danger to the public while 175,000 people traveled from Wuhan to all over China and the world. The virus was now set free to follow the new way of war detailed in the pages of Unrestricted Warfare. This book was written by two Peoples Liberation Army Colonels as a strategy to defeat a militarily superior United States.

 

... and this:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/japanese-vp-who-should-be-renamed-chinese-health-organization

 

The deputy prime minister of Japan says that the WHO should be renamed the ‘Chinese Health Organization’ for its role in helping Beijing cover-up the severity of the coronavirus outbreak.

Referring to a petition which now has almost 700,000 signatures calling on WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom to resign, Taro Aso tore into the organization for conspiring with China and failing to stop a global pandemic that could have been prevented.

Indeed, as we have highlighted, the World Health Organization repeatedly amplified Chinese propaganda that the coronavirus outbreak was under control, including a January 14th tweet which falsely claimed there was no human to human transmission of the disease, despite this having occurred in December.

Throughout January, the WHO praised China for its open and “speedy” response to COVID-19, even as Beijing authorities were silencing and disappearing doctors like Ai Fen who tried to warn the world that China was engaged in a cover-up.

The global health body also repeatedly told countries not to enforce border controls that could have stopped the spread of the virus, instead placing more importance on avoiding the “stigmatization” of Chinese people.

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More 'stories' ...

 

https://news.yahoo.com/chinese-doctor-disappears-blowing-whistle-202059300.html

 

"... In December, local and national officials issued a gag order to labs in Wuhan after scientists there identified a new viral pneumonia, ordering them to halt tests, destroy samples, and conceal the news."

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/top-foreign-affairs-republican-calls-chinas-handling-of-coronavirus-one-of-the-worst-cover-ups-in-human-history/

 

" ... Local and national officials issued a gag order to labs in Wuhan in December after they identified a new viral pneumonia, ordering them to halt tests, destroy samples, and conceal the news, the Times of London reported.

Wuhan officials in early January also deliberately declined to inform a health team from Beijing as well as the public that the new coronavirus was highly contagious and could be spread from person to person.

“I just don’t think they can get away with it this time,” McCaul continued, saying “unsanitary practices” in China are to blame and calling on the World Health Organization should hold the communist country responsible. “They are the cause of a global pandemic.”

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Suspected SARS virus and flu samples found in luggage: FBI report describes China's 'biosecurity risk'

 

WASHINGTON — In late November 2018, just over a year before the first coronavirus case was identified in Wuhan, China, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents at Detroit Metro Airport stopped a Chinese biologist with three vials labeled “Antibodies” in his luggage. 

The biologist told the agents that a colleague in China had asked him to deliver the vials to a researcher at a U.S. institute. After examining the vials, however, customs agents came to an alarming conclusion.

“Inspection of the writing on the vials and the stated recipient led inspection personnel to believe the materials contained within the vials may be viable Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) materials,” says an unclassified FBI tactical intelligence report obtained by Yahoo News.

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There are a lot of stories going around the internet now about how how China did this or that, the US did that and this and the financial elite are behind it, the UN are behind it, it's a plot to reduce the world population, it's a plot to bring in one world government, 5g towers are causing it, sinners are causing it, Mother Earth - Gaia - is causing it, it's the Christian rapture, it's the Commies, the Capitalists, the anti Trumpers trying to make him look bad... most of them sound batshit crazy to me but they literally all have a few links with some expert being interviewed as proof so hell,what do I know?

 

 

At the end of the day though, it started in China and spread to the rest of the world. It didn't need to become a big problem in China but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so China ignored the scientists.

 

And then it became a big problem in Iran. It probably didn't need to become a big problem there either but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so Iran ignored the scientists.

 

And then it became a big problem in Europe. It probably didn't need to become a big problem there either but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so Europe ignored the scientists.

 

And then it became a big problem in North America. It probably didn't need to become a big problem there either but taking the drastic action that was needed would have really hurt the economy and scientists talking about how a few people with the flu would lead to a pandemic didn't sound very believable or serious so North America ignored the scientists.

 

And the rest of the world is pretty much following the trend.

 

When everyone is doing the same thing while pointing the finger at everyone else I really think going down the blame game road is pointless. We can and should be working together and looking at what needs to happen to make sure there isn't a covid20 instead.

Sandnose:

It is disturbing how many d1ckhead5 there are running this shit show and how eager they are to score a cheap pointless political point when that should be the absolute last thing they should be doing. No one is innocent but some are much more guilty than others. Hopefully in the post-corona world a reckoning will rain down on those aforementioned d1ckhead5.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/calls-mount-investigation-who-participating-chinas-coronavirus-coverup

 

On Tuesday, Florida Senator Rick Scott (R) issued a statement conveying demanding accountability over the WHO's handling of the crisis, according to American Military News.

"The mission of the WHO is to get public health information to the world so every country can make the best decisions to keep their citizens safe. When it comes to Coronavirus, the WHO failed. They need to be held accountable for their role in promoting misinformation and helping Communist China cover up a global pandemic," said Scott. "We know Communist China is lying about how many cases and deaths they have, what they knew and when they knew it – and the WHO never bothered to investigate further. Their inaction cost lives."

Also calling for WHO to be held accountable is Gen. Rob Spalding (Ret.), who wrote in the same publication that "The first global war of the 21st century began in December without a shot fired. A Wuhan doctor in China noticed some patients admitted to the hospital were exhibiting viral pneumonia consistent with SARS. Only it wasn’t SARS. When he tried to sound the alarm, he triggered the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) authoritarian control on information. Discussion of the illness was prohibited, and the doctor – who tried to warn colleagues through social media – was detained. The results of patient samples that had been sequenced to reveal their genomes were quickly squashed, and the samples destroyed before the results could be made public."

The WHO was notified early on, but they were prevented by the CCP to travel to Wuhan. Meanwhile, the CCP denied there was any danger to the public while 175,000 people traveled from Wuhan to all over China and the world. The virus was now set free to follow the new way of war detailed in the pages of Unrestricted Warfare. This book was written by two Peoples Liberation Army Colonels as a strategy to defeat a militarily superior United States.

 

... and this:

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/japanese-vp-who-should-be-renamed-chinese-health-organization

 

The deputy prime minister of Japan says that the WHO should be renamed the ‘Chinese Health Organization’ for its role in helping Beijing cover-up the severity of the coronavirus outbreak.

Referring to a petition which now has almost 700,000 signatures calling on WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom to resign, Taro Aso tore into the organization for conspiring with China and failing to stop a global pandemic that could have been prevented.

Indeed, as we have highlighted, the World Health Organization repeatedly amplified Chinese propaganda that the coronavirus outbreak was under control, including a January 14th tweet which falsely claimed there was no human to human transmission of the disease, despite this having occurred in December.

Throughout January, the WHO praised China for its open and “speedy” response to COVID-19, even as Beijing authorities were silencing and disappearing doctors like Ai Fen who tried to warn the world that China was engaged in a cover-up.

The global health body also repeatedly told countries not to enforce border controls that could have stopped the spread of the virus, instead placing more importance on avoiding the “stigmatization” of Chinese people.

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https://news.yahoo.com/chinese-doctor-disappears-blowing-whistle-202059300.html

 

"... In December, local and national officials issued a gag order to labs in Wuhan after scientists there identified a new viral pneumonia, ordering them to halt tests, destroy samples, and conceal the news."

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/top-foreign-affairs-republican-calls-chinas-handling-of-coronavirus-one-of-the-worst-cover-ups-in-human-history/

 

" ... Local and national officials issued a gag order to labs in Wuhan in December after they identified a new viral pneumonia, ordering them to halt tests, destroy samples, and conceal the news, the Times of London reported.

Wuhan officials in early January also deliberately declined to inform a health team from Beijing as well as the public that the new coronavirus was highly contagious and could be spread from person to person.

“I just don’t think they can get away with it this time,” McCaul continued, saying “unsanitary practices” in China are to blame and calling on the World Health Organization should hold the communist country responsible. “They are the cause of a global pandemic.”

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Face and ... punitive damages ...

No. 2: China is Legally Liable

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-intelligence-report-accuses-ch...

 

New US Intelligence Report Accuses China Of Deliberately Lying About Coronavirus Figures

 

 

A day after China reported more than 1,500 additional "asymptomatic" cases that authorities said had been left out of the country's data, while promising to start reporting these cases (they've already reported 50 more on Wednesday, blaming most of them on travel) going forward, an intelligence report has been submitted to the White House accusing Beijing of deliberately underreporting cases.

The report, which was leaked to the US press by senior-level officials, revealed that the US believes China deliberately tried to conceal the extent of the outbreak, suggesting that Beijing's decision to lift its lockdown is probably premature, which is why they're pivoting toward blaming foreigners for these new "asymptomatic" cases that have supposedly been known to the government all along, they just simply 'forgot' to count them.

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Hold China liable for worldwide coronavirus costs

 

https://foundersbroadsheet.com/hold-china-liable-for-worldwide-coronavir...

Courts on all six continents should be holding the government of China liable for worldwide coronavirus costs. For over a month, the totalitarian Communist government concealed the existence of a dangerous epidemic threat and threatened or jailed those of its doctors and citizens attempting to warn of its existence.

“[T]he spread of the virus to regions outside Asia would knock 1.3% off global growth this year, the equivalent of $1.1 trillion in lost income,” The Guardian reports, citing a study by Oxford Economics. Deaths have already occurred outside China — in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, the US, Italy, and Iran — with many more taken sick with the highly infectious lung disease. China and the world could largely have been spared the deaths, injuries, and costs if China had had a free press and responsive democratic government, as in Taiwan.

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https://warontherocks.com/2020/03/china-is-legally-responsible-for-covid...

CHINA IS LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR COVID-19 DAMAGE AND CLAIMS COULD BE IN THE TRILLIONS

As the novel coronavirus incubated in Wuhan from mid-December to mid-January, the Chinese state made evidently intentional misrepresentations to its people concerning the outbreak, providing false assurances to the population preceding the approach of the Lunar New Year celebrations on Jan. 25. In mid-December, an outbreak of a novel influenza-like illness was traced to workers and customers of the city’s Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, which contained exotic and wild animal species. On Dec. 26, multiple Chinese news outlets released reports of an anonymous laboratory technician who made a startling discovery: The sickness was caused by a new coronavirus that was 87 percent similar to SARS, or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.

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Stiggs:

Not defending China's role in this at all but...

 

The politicians braying about how China should be sued are the same ones who, knowing full well the virus was in their country actively decided to play it down, ignore the advice of the WHO and their own experts and encourage their people to carry on as normal. Go to the football games, the beaches, the concerts, pack those bars and restaurants.

 

If action was taken back in January when the world became aware of the problem it could have been contained and wouldn't be the horrifying shit show we're seeing unfold now and the responsibility for that should be on the people involved.

 

Now is the time those dickheads should be doing everything they can to address the crisis in their own countries,not passing the buck and trying to weasel their way out of their own part in this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'd say, Chinese response, i.e. face was crucial ... Phil just opened new thread ... 40 000 death as I saw it quickly ...

I read about at Zero ... western mastards/reporters went and count delivery of coffins ... Not that I am counting casualties, but such info is very important at determination of severity of pandemic.

WHO didn't move at all at the beginning in Dec./Jan. ... it was thread about ... ''will (and when?) WHO will declare pandemic ...'' hanging on for the whole week, and WHO replied with praising China at managing of the outbreak. Then that thread was replaced with WHO's PM with colored face in Chinese flag as ''he/WHO pocketed loads of funds from China (before the outbreak) ...'', so that's why he praises China.

The other thing struck me was WHO's managing director isn't MD ...

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The world found out in early January that China had a bit of a situation on their hands. That was when scientists, intelligence agencies etc - everyone who knew what it meant in other words - said holy fecking shiz, this is some real bad shite and we need to take action now to prevent it becoming a problem in our countries and furthermore, we're pretty sure China is downplaying the severity of it.

 

The advice was ignored.

 

If everyone was ignoring the people who said 'we're facing a real nasty pandemic here, and it's probably worse than what China is telling us' what difference does it make how many people were dying in China? They weren't willing to act regardless.

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I have a bit of a feeling, we're going here about 'color of the water' ...

-once you say that earthquake just occurred was only 2 by Richter, you will get less help from outside ...; -once you say, 'it's not that bad ...', outside world won't react ...; -once you don't let MDs from West to enter the country ... That's just an 'effin common sense.

Why would you close your country at the natural (or non) disaster anyway? 

 

I think, you hide something, but I am very suspicious person ...

 

We'll see ... I read, scientists are adamant virus wasn't genetically engineered and then I read in order for bat virus to jump on pangolin (intermediary) and from there to a human it takes long time.  The main part at this virus transformation is 'virus is adjusting'. That transformation can't be completed in the afternoon ..., so the thingy "I ate bat soup last night and then whole block got infected ..." is utter BS!

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Yeah maybe one of the conspiracy theories are right ,we'll probably never know the truth.

 

My point is only this though... regardless of how it started and how many people caught a dose in China, it was more or less only their problem until it got to other countries.

 

We (waiguo) found out about it in January and it was obvious we had some cases. At that point, if we had acted we could have stopped the spread and it wouldn't be the enormous mess it is now. We, or most of us at least, chose not to.

 

China said there was XX number there - nobody really believed them but regardless, who cares how many China had, we should have been worrying about how many we had and stopping it from becoming more.

 

Now that it's a huge problem people are still going on about how many China had. I still say who cares? Whether they had 10 or a billion the end result is the same for us - we have allowed our handful to become tens of thousands, we should be concentrating on fixing our mess and politicians going on about how China lied about the numbers isn't helping do that, it's just trying to pass the blame for how they mishandled it.

 

When all this is over people can squabble all they want about who is to blame and who is more to blame, I think it will sound  lot like a pot / kettle black bitching match.

 

 

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T*iw*n seems to be the only country that got this shit right.

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I just read a title ... here you have it:

 

"One Of The Worst Coverups In Human History": MSM Attention Turns To Chinese Biolab Near COVID-19 Ground Zero

What took you guys so long?

 

In late January we asked whether a prolific Chinese scientist who was experimenting with bat coronavirus at a level-4 biolab in Wuhan China was responsible for the current outbreak of a virus which is 96% genetically identical - and which saw an explosion in cases at a wet market located just down the street.

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You've got a donation of protective gear at your emergency. Then, your emergency passed and you SELL the same protective gear back to the country which donate it to you in the first place ... and it is in emergency ...

 How would you call that ... in English or in Chinese, doesn't really matter ...?

 

Trump-a .... go get them, MFs! 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/china-makes-italy-buy-back-ppe-it-donated

 

China has distributed nearly 4 billion masks to foreign countries as it ramps up production of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE), a move to restore its image as a global leader focused on humanitarian relief amid the COVID-19 pandemic that originated in its country and spread across the world. 

However, The Spectator provides a new account of how China's latest diplomacy has turned out to be an absolute 'disaster,' in the latest example with Italy and other European countries. 

China told the world that it would donate tons of PPE to Italy to slow the virus outbreak. Reports now indicate that China actually charged Italy for PPE, instead of donating. It also turns out the PPE China sent over was the same equipment that Italy donated to China earlier in the year. What a mess... 

"Before the virus hit Europe, Italy sent tons of PPE to China to help China protect its own population. China then has sent Italian PPE back to Italy -- some of it, not even all of it ... and charged them for it," a senior Trump administration official told The Spectator.

Since March 1, China has exported 3.86 billion masks, 37.5 million pieces of PPE, 16,000 ventilators, and 2.84 million test kits across the globe, according to the New York Post

Many countries who have received masks and other medical equipment from China have complained about the quality does not meet medical standards. China has apologized for quality issues and blamed its defective equipment on others.

Last week, we noted that the Netherlands was forced to recall 1.3 million face masks produced in China because they did not meet safety standards.

 

In Spain, the Ministry of Health on March 26 revealed that 640,000 COVID-19 tests that it had purchased from China were defective.

On March 28, the French government, which has several weeks of medical supplies left, announced it had ordered one billion face masks from China. It remains to be seen if the masks will be defective 

"It's so disingenuous for Chinese officials now to say we are the ones who are helping the Italians or we are the ones who are helping the developing world when, in fact, they are the ones who infected all of us," the senior administration official said.

Of course, they should be helping. They have a special responsibility to help because they are the ones who began the spread of the coronavirus and did not give the information required to the rest of the world to plan accordingly."

 

The official also said China's disinformation campaign to downplay the severity of the virus delayed the administration's response to prepare the country for an outbreak by at least a month.

"The disinformation that China has put out is crippling responses around the world... We're operating on some level with a hand-tied behind our back." 

The revelations surrounding Italy and faulty medical equipment shipments to European countries are fueling distrust among Chinese President Xi Jinping, who is attempting to position himself as the world's new humanitarian superpower.

     

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     I don't get any pints by posting this here ...

     

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-drags-china-international-c...

     

    India Drags China To International Court For COVID-19 War

    As a direct impact of extensive GreatGameIndia reporting on the sinister aspect of Coronavirus being manufactured as a biological weapon, now India has dragged China to international court for waging COVID-19 War. India’s complaint to the United Nations Human Rights Council seeking compensation from China specifically presents as evidence GratGameIndia's report on how Chinese biowarfare agents stole Coronavirus from a Canadian lab and weaponized it at Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    In addition to the Indian complaint, a $20 trillion lawsuit has also been filled against China for waging a Biological war in Texas Federal Court, alleging that it unleashed the cotonavirus as a bioweapon upon the world.

     

     

     

    The Complaint

    The International Council of Jurists (ICJ) and All India Bar Association have moved the United Nations Human Rights Council seeking compensation from China for “surreptitiously developing a biological weapon capable of mass destruction.”

    The complaint was penned by senior advocate Adish C. Aggarwala, the Chairperson of All India Bar Association and President of International Council of Jurists, in the backdrop of the spread of deadly coronavirus, which has claimed thousands of lives across the world.

    “It is humbly prayed that the UNHRC may be pleased to enquire and direct China and to adequately compensate international community and member states, particularly India, for surreptitiously developing a biological weapon capable of mass destruction of mankind,” Aggarwala stated in the complaint.

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    Whoever couldn't see Ambi's u-Tube vid about possible origins of Covid virus by Matthew Tye, an American living in Wahun, here is Zero's thread about it:

     

    All Trails Lead Back To The Wuhan Bio-Lab

     

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/all-trails-lead-back-wuhan-bio-lab

     

    It describes well what you can see on his u-Tube vid ...

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    Trump-a ... 

     

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/its-about-time-trump-admin-wants-work-d...

    Trump Admin Wants To 'Work Directly' With Wuhan Institute Of Virology

    Surprisingly, even CNN has much-belatedly and very unexpectedly started posing critical questions centered on the Wuhan Institute of Virology while doing a review of various theories as to COVID-19's origins. CNN on Monday cited that "one expert, a chemical biology professor and bioweapons expert at Rutgers University, has suggested to several media outlets that the lab-accident theory has credence."

    "The possibility that the virus entered humans through a laboratory accident cannot and should not be dismissed," Dr. Richard Ebright told CNN in an email Sunday. This comes more than two months after the mainstream media went ballistic over our posing the same questions. In late January we had asked whether a prolific Chinese scientist who was experimenting with bat coronavirus at a level-4 biolab in Wuhan China was responsible for the current outbreak of a virus which is 96% genetically identical - and which saw an explosion in cases at a wet market located just down the street.

    And now this via Reuters Tuesday"A senior Trump administration official urged China on Tuesday to allow the United States to work directly with laboratories in Wuhan on research into the novel coronavirus, saying this was critical to saving lives globally." 

     

    “We would appreciate the opportunity to work directly with their Virology labs in Wuhan to share whatever research they have,” the Trump admin official said.

    The unnamed administration official explained:

    “Since the pandemic originated in Wuhan, we think cooperation with PRC medical and disease experts there is critical to saving lives globally.”

    Well yes, it's about time there's some official movement centered on the very place most likely to hold the keys to the mystery of both COVID-19's origins and how to combat it and/or prevent it.

     

    The admin statement is specifically in response to an apparent fast thawing of tensions between Beijing and Washington on the outbreak, after a month-long war of words trading accusations over its handling. China's ambassador to the US Cui Tiankai, said in a NYT op-ed Sunday that despite recent “unpleasant talk” between the two centered on the pandemic, it's now time for “solidarity, collaboration and mutual support.”

    Scientists inside the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China. AFP via Getty

      

    In a rare belated moment, the senior Trump administration official zeroed in on the Wuhan Institute of Virology Biosafety Level 4 Laboratory, the county's top lab dedicated to the research of severe infectious diseases, which again happens to be located a mere miles from the Wuhan wet market which witnessed the first cases:

    “If Ambassador Cui is saying that China is willing to cooperate with the U.S., we would appreciate the opportunity to work directly with their Virology labs in Wuhan to share whatever research they have, since they’ve known about it and have been fighting it for at least a month longer than our scientists here in the U.S.,” the official said.

    It also just so happens that Wuhan at the start of this week lifted its lockdown after infections have dramatically declined to near zero new infections per day.

    It must be remembered that starting in February the director of the White House's Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), Kelvin Droegemeier, requested in a letter to the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, that scientific experts "rapidly" look into the origins of the deadly COVID-19 outbreak

    The White House letter said this remained crucial "to inform future outbreak preparation and better understand animal/human and environmental transmission aspects of coronaviruses."

    Beijing's response to this latest initiative to open up the Wuhan lab for cooperation with US scientists investigating the origins of the virus is sure to be interesting. And a potential lack of response altogether, a likely prospect, will also be telling.

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      icnif77:

      Not Trade War, no .... It looks like Great Chinese Wall will get rebuild and expanded ... by West!

       

      https://news.yahoo.com/time-put-china-lockdown-dishonesty-040108582.html

       

      Glenn Harlan Reynolds, Opinion columnist

       

      There are many lessons to be learned from the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic. But one is already clear: China needs to be isolated from the civilized world until its behavior improves. We are in the current situation, with deaths and economic devastation worldwide, because China handled this outbreak with its trademark mixture of dishonesty, incompetence and thuggery. Were China a more civilized nation, this outbreak would have been stopped early, and with far less harm, inside and outside of China.

      As Marion Smith wrote in these pages on Sunday, China’s first response was to clamp down on reports of the then-new disease that had appeared in Wuhan. The brave doctor Li Wenliang, who first reported the disease to fellow physicians was silenced by police. Chinese media reports of the disease were censored by the government. So were ordinary citizens reporting on transparent social media.

      Coronavirus coverup

      According to U.S. intelligence agencies, China systematically deceived the world about the extent of the outbreak, lulling other nations into a false sense of security that delayed a response by weeks or even months.

      As Smith writes “Beijing denied until Jan. 20 that human to human transmission was occurring. Yet at the same time, Chinese officials and state-owned companies were urgently acquiring bulk medical supplies — especially personal protective equipment like masks and gloves — from Australia, Europe, and around the world. Put simply, Beijing hoarded the world’s life-saving resources while falsely claiming that people’s lives weren’t at risk.”

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      It was disgusting to c&p this ... effin' SCS (Spineless Chinese Scum) ... what I already knew ...

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      "They Missed The Call" - Trump Plans To Withhold Money From WHO Over 'Botched' Crisis Response

        For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look.

         

         

        Update (1810ET): After tweeting his criticism of the WHO earlier, President Trump brought up the NGO giant again during Tuesday night's briefing, reiterating that there is a plan in place to withhold some American financing for the organization.

         

        The US is one of the WHO's biggest backers, along with China.

         

        President Trump said Tuesday night that "we’re going to put a hold on money spent on the WHO."

         

        He added that "they missed the call" on the coronavirus pandemic.

        Journalists swiftly whipped out some memos from January that the WHO issued warning about the potential devastation to be caused by the novel coronavirus, memos published at a time that Trump was still playing down the crisis.

        Of course, these 'impartial reporters' are ignoring the many criticisms and legitimate questions that have been raised about the WHOs motivations and objectives, along with the many mistakes it has been accused of making during the early weeks of the global response.

        Remember when the WHO dragged its feet on labeling the novel coronavirus outbreak a global health emergency, before doing the exact same thing before finally admitting that the COVID-19 is officially a major pandemic with no precedents in the last 100 years. Most notoriously, it supported Beijing's claims that travel restrictions were 'racist', and claimed they were unnecessary during the early weeks of the outbreak.

        Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump

        "The W.H.O. really blew it. For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation?"

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        Here Comes The Second Wave: Wuhan Lockdown Ends And Tens Of Thousands Are About To Flee The City

          Ff the second wave of infections that China is about to unleash on the world results in millions of deaths, at what point will China's actions be viewed as an act of war?

           

           

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          If there is another big outbreak following this it'll be hard for China to keep blaming foreigners for the new cases.

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          It was lame excuse ... Nobody bought that ... since the first cover-up.

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          @stiggs They are already ahead of the game and getting the narrative in place before it happens. Africans in Guangzhou are experiencing police and health dept in hazmat suits knocking on their doors to "check on their welfare". White people in the same complex aren't experiencing the same thing apparently.

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          @Sandnose yep I've been reading about how foreigners are being blamed for it - never mind all the returning Chinese  - but I don't see how even the braindead could still believe that if outbreaks pop up everywhere after this.

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          As far as I'm aware only Chinese nationals are allowed to China until July. But logic was never a priority when some ideological and racist bashing was on offer. Zui waiguo.

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          Yeah I thought the gates were pretty much closed to foreigners too and everyone I know who has already arrived in China from traveling or whatever had to spend 2 weeks in lockdown under strict conditions.

           

          I bet there are any number of little emperors who just got back from studying in places like New York or London though who think it's just not fair that they can't go and buy some new shoes, get their nails done then head to a busy restaurant and on to KTV the day after they get back, and any poor b@stard trying to do his job and enforce lockdown conditions for new arrivals will have to answer to Daddy and his circle of influential friends if he dares to challenge them.

           

          I reckon that's where the spike in new cases will be coming from.

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          Of course. I've seen kids I know who study abroad posting their latest shopping, parties and dinners on Wechat recently. And all whining that they are being treated so unfairly because Daddy is rich. They seem to think that if you are rich and young that you can't get infected, sick or pass it on to grandma so it is insulting to make them socially isolate. I think you are right. The vulgar rich will cause the second wave but of course the blame will be put on "The West".

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          Kyle Bass Blasts China's "Most Lying, Coercive, Manipulative Government" For "Knowingly Infecting The World"

          With countries around the world in quarantine or lockdown mode to deal with the Wuhan coronavirus or CCP virus pandemic, what can we expect in terms of economic fallout?

          What evidence has emerged showing the Chinese Communist Party is culpable?

          What will happen to the US, Chinese, and Hong Kong economies as the pandemic wanes?

           

          And why is Hong Kong’s situation particularly perilous?

          In this episode, we sit down with Kyle Bass, the founder and chief investment officer of Hayman Capital Management, a Dallas-based hedge fund. Bass is a founding member of the Committee on the Present Danger: China, and he is also Chairman of the Board of The Rule of Law Foundation.

          Mr. Bass: I just think it’s important for the press to really think about, and for the world to think about what really happened in a timeline, and not some conspiracy theory because China won’t allow us in, and won’t allow our scientists to try to find patient zero and origin of the virus. And in fact, you’ve probably seen recent communiques between the Chinese Communist Party and their labs that their lab output has to be censored by the CCP, or that has anything to do with the Wuhan virus, [has to be approved] before it goes to the rest of the world. So, they are very sensitive on this topic—number one.

          And number two, if you look back to the timeline, and you understand what happened, China has an enormous culpability. They actually have a legal liability, and one that’s a financial liability. I don’t know if you’ve seen various interviews in the last few days of U.S. legislators but there is a growing tide, of not only resentment, but a growing tide of people in the legislative branch of the U.S. and the UK governments, and now it’s bleeding into Australia and Canada, where they’re starting to say that we need to use the rule of law, the U.S. rule of law, the British Common Law, to start talking about reparations and getting the Chinese government to pay for their malign actions. And I think it’s important to note: on December 31, there were already 104 cases and 19 deaths in Wuhan. The Wuhan scientists, the heroes who first found this strange new pneumonia that was propagating itself so freely in Wuhan, not only were they arrested, and punished, and forced to retract statements that they had put on WeChat, but as you know, since then, one of the doctors who was 33 years old has died from the Wuhan virus.

           

          Secondarily, that all happened in December. So by December 31, the government of Taiwan sent a white paper to the World Health Organization explaining that they had full evidence that there was human-to-human transmission, and that it was going to be a new global pandemic. And if you remember, on January 14, Tedros said to the world in a proclamation on a Tweet that this is not a global pandemic, and that he had just consulted with Xi Jinping and the Chinese, and that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission—this is January 14. And then January 23, Xi Jinping closed down all air traffic from Wuhan to the rest of China. But he allowed Wuhan air traffic to travel to the rest of the world. Essentially, Xi Jinping knowingly infected the rest of the world. … “If he’s going to go down, the world is going to go down with him,” essentially what he was saying. That is not a responsible actor. That is not a government who’s ideologically aligned with the rest of the West. This is a government that basically covered up the truth. And we all know that they covered up the truth, but now, it’s actually after Neil Ferguson’s Boston Globe article, and now you see that the Chinese Foreign Ministry said on February 2 that it is xenophobic to close anyone’s borders to the Chinese, and that travel restriction shouldn’t be made. Xi Jinping himself shut down Wuhan, January 23; this is February 2, they’re telling the world this. 

          They are the most lying, coercive, manipulative government in the world, and you and I both know, they are committing the largest crimes against humanity prior to this outbreak of the sinister virus that God knows where it really came from—somewhere between the Wuhan wet market, the Chinese Center for Disease Control, which is right across the street, or maybe 20 miles north, at the Biosafety Level 4 lab in China. But the bottom line is, this disease has been unleashed on the rest of the world, and it was knowingly done so. And that’s why I’m so visibly upset about this.

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          The old idiom in China, the nail above the floor gets the hammer, they knocked down the nail (whistleblowers) and the whole damn floor exploded around them.

           

          It's too big of a mess to cleanup without some accountablilty.

           

          WHO, world health organization, is supposed to aide the health of the world, sort of says it in the name, and they failed on a massive scale, the world will not stand by and not hold someone accountable for this.

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          It looks only me (and you) see this ... It isn't conspiracy, if you look at Mac's comment ... pasted on other thread.

          Close Wahun at the outbreak, butT ... complain once western countries impose moratorium to visitors from China as 'that's racist!'. And WHO kow tow ...

          Every western country has an outbreak, but Beijing and Shanghai are clear.

          Woow, how clever you are ....

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          Xi-nny-da-Pooh and Merkel the latest ...

          Merkel looks like she's undergoing sex change hormonal treatment ... surprise

           

          China Outraged After Largest German Newspaper Accuses Beijing Of "Exporting" Coronavirus Pandemic, Demands €149 Billion In Damages

          "China’s greatest export hit (that nobody wanted to have, but which has nevertheless gone around the world) is coronavirus."

           

          Addressing the Chinese president, the German editor wrote that, "You, your government and your scientists had to know long ago that coronavirus is highly infectious, but you left the world in the dark about it. Your top experts didn't respond when Western researchers asked to know what was going on in Wuhan. You were too proud and too nationalistic to tell the truth, which you felt was a national disgrace."

          Reichelt said that, "You rule by surveillance. You wouldn't be president without surveillance. You monitor everything, every citizen, but you refuse to monitor the diseased wet markets in your country. You shut down every newspaper and website that is critical of your rule, but not the stalls where bat soup is sold. You are not only monitoring your people, you are endangering them – and with them, the rest of the world.

          He continued with his bill of particulars, noting that “surveillance is a denial of freedom. And a nation that is not free, is not creative. A nation that is not innovative, does not invent anything. This is why you have made your country the world champion in intellectual property theft.

          “China enriches itself with the inventions of others, instead of inventing on its own,” Reichelt wrote. "The reason China does not innovate and invent is that you don't let the young people in your country think freely. China’s greatest export hit (that nobody wanted to have, but which has nevertheless gone around the world) is coronavirus.”

          We can't wait to read what Reichelt will have to say when it is confirmed that the "Wu Flu" escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a development we expect will take place any day.

          The best-selling paper Bild calculated prior to Reichelt's editorial that China owed Germany €149 billion for coronavirus damages, triggering the angry response from the Chinese embassy in Berlin. Bild said the compensation amounts to €1,784 per person if Germany's GDP drops by 4.2 percent. The Bild article was titled: "What China owes us."

          Oh, and yes, the same line of questioning that got this site banned by the "ultra liberal" arbiters of all that is true and just in this world - and direct whose actions may have facilitates the deaths of thousands of people around the globe - was not lost on the Bild editor-in-chief, who cited last week's Washington Post article reporting that, "your laboratories in Wuhan have been researching coronaviruses in bats, but without maintaining the highest safety standards. Why are your toxic laboratories not as secure as your prisons for political prisoners? Would you like to explain this to the grieving widows, daughters, sons, husbands, parents of corona victims all over the world?"

          Reichelt concluded that, "In your country, your people are whispering about you. Your power is crumbling. You have created an inscrutable, non-transparent China. Before Corona, China was known as a surveillance state. Now, China is known as a surveillance state that infected the world with a deadly disease.That is your political legacy."

           

          "Krouts were always good at counting, thou ... Take this, China ...

           

            I saw a flyer ...

           

          Free Schengen visa for all members of Standing Committee ..;

          City/Country of Designated Travel: "... Hague, Belgium ..";

          Address: "International Court of Justice";

          Topic: "Intensive Course in English Language", Sub-topic: Review of "International Law Regulations and Penalties";

           

          English Course will be provided free of charge ... conducted by the non-Native English Head of International Court, and several appointed barristers, also all non-Native English sneakers ...he, he.

          icnif77:

          Fok it, flyer was for real ...

           

          https://warontherocks.com/2020/03/china-is-legally-responsible-for-covid-19-damage-and-claims-could-be-in-the-trillions/

           

          Excerpt:

          By its failure to adhere to its legal commitments to the International Health Regulations, the Chinese Communist Party has let loose a global contagion, with mounting material consequences.

          The cost of the coronavirus grows daily, with increasing incidents of sickness and death. The mitigation and suppression measures enforced by states to limit the damage are wrecking the global economy

          Articles of State Responsibility, states are required to make full reparations for the injury caused by their internationally wrongful acts. Injuries include damages, whether material or moral. Injured states are entitled to full reparation “in the form of restitution in kind, compensation, satisfaction and assurances and guarantees of non-repetition” (Article 34). Restitution in kind means that the injured state is entitled to be placed in the same position as existed before the wrongful acts were committed (Article 35). To the extent that restitution is not made, injured states are entitled to compensation (Article 36), and satisfaction, in terms of an apology and internal discipline and even criminal prosecution of officials in China who committed malfeasance (Article 37). Finally, injured states are entitled to guarantees of non-repetition, although the 2005 International Health Regulations were designed for this purpose after SARS (Article 48). As the world continues to suffer the costs of China’s breach of its legal duties, it remains to be seen whether the injured states can be made whole.

          No one expects that China will fulfill its obligations, or take steps required by the law of state responsibility. So, how might the United States and other nations vindicate their rights? The legal consequences of an internationally wrongful act are subject to the procedures of the Charter of the United Nations. Chapter XIV of the recognizes that states may bring disputes before the International Court of Justice or other international tribunals. But the principle of state sovereignty means that a state may not be compelled to appear before an international court without its consent. This reflects a general proposition in international law, and its fundamental weakness.

          Still, injured states are not without remedy. Barring any prospect for effective litigation, states could resort to self-help. The law of state responsibility permits injured states to take lawful countermeasures against China by suspending their own compliance with obligations owed to China as a means of inducing Beijing to fulfill its responsibilities and debt (Article 49). Countermeasures shall not be disproportionate to the degree of gravity of the wrongful acts and the effects inflicted on injured states (Article 51). The choice of countermeasures that injured states may select is wide open, with only minimal limitations. For example, countermeasures may not involve the threat or use of force or undermine the human rights of China (Article 50). Except for these limitations, however, the United States and other injured states may suspend existing legal obligations or deliberately violate other legal duties owed to China as a means to induce Beijing to fulfill its responsibilities and address the calamitous damages it has inflicted on the world.

          The menu for such countermeasures is as limitless as the extent that international law infuses the foreign affairs between China and the world, and such action by injured states may be individual and collective and does not have to be connected explicitly to the kind or type of violations committed by China. Thus, action could include removal of China from leadership positions and memberships, as China now chairs four of 15 organizations of the United Nations system. States could reverse China’s entry into the World Trade Organization, suspend air travel to China for a period of years, broadcast Western media in China, and undermine China’s famous internet firewall that keeps the country’s information ecosystem sealed off from the rest of the world. Remember that countermeasures permit not only acts that are merely unfriendly, but also licenses acts that would normally be a violation of international law. But the limitations still leave considerable room to roam, even if they violate China’s sovereignty and internal affairs, including ensuring that Taiwanese media voices and officials are ...

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          They talk numbers in Fla:

           

          https://9now.nine.com.au/60-minutes/six-trillion-dollar-lawsuit-china-re...

           

          https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71893/coronavirus-cover-up-china-hit-with...

           

          A class action lawsuit is suing the Chinese Communist Party for $4 trillion over COVID-19 coronavirus

           

          A new class action lawsuit has been brought on by Florida-based law firm Berman Law Group against the Chinese Communist Party, with over 10,000 people signing the class action lawsuit seeking $4 trillion -- yes, trillion with a T.

          The $4 trillion lawsuit has family members that have contracted, and died of COVID-19 as well as healthcare workers who have gotten sick and died from COVID-19, as they didn't have personal protective equipment. 60 Minutes Australia  talked with the chief stategist behind the lawsuit in Florida, Jeremy Alters.

           

          Alters said that China should take accountability for the human loss and economic destruction that has knocked the world onto its knees, telling a 60 Minutes reporter: "We are now in the depth of this economic and human crisis that could have been mostly prevented, if not all prevented".

           

          He continued: "This lawsuit is based on the fact that [China] knew about this virus. They failed to contain the virus. They failed to let us know in a timely fashion about the virus and have unleashed hell on our communities, on our countries, the United States, Australia and everywhere else".

           

          Alters said that his law firm wants to be able to "gain compensation for them to help them get on with their lives the best way they can, and to try to put people back to normal".

           

          As for the changes of winning the lawsuit, considering it is a economy-crushing $4 trillion -- Alters added: "The chances are not nil. They are very good. We will be able to pursue this in court and it will be up to our judge or judges. And at some point, bring China to bear so that they have to pay for what they've done".

          icnif77:

          Money, money ...

           

          UK:

          https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1266479/coronavirus-UK-latest-china-pay-reparations-debt-beijing-owned-bank-assets-London

           

          Canada:

          https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-former-liberal-justice-minister-urges-sanctions-against-chinese/

           

          USA:

          https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/china-reparations/

           

          Australia:

          https://9now.nine.com.au/60-minutes/six-trillion-dollar-lawsuit-china-reparations-for-coronavirus-global-pandemic-60-minutes/6e1daf78-cf60-404b-bcae-f22282529b22

           

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          https://warontherocks.com/2020/03/china-is-legally-responsible-for-covid...

           

          International Health Regulations

          As one of the 194 states party to the legally binding 2005 International Health Regulations, China has a duty to rapidly gather information about and contribute to a common understanding of what may constitute a public health emergency with potential international implications. The legally binding International Health Regulations were adopted by the World Health Assembly in 1969, to control six infectious diseases: cholera, plague, yellow fever, smallpox, relapsing fever, and typhus. The 2005 revision added smallpox, poliomyelitis due to wild-type poliovirus, SARS, and cases of human influenza caused by a new subtype, set forth in the second annex.

          Article 6 of the International Health Regulations requires states to provide expedited, timely, accurate, and sufficiently detailed information to WHO about the potential public health emergencies identified in the second annex in order to galvanize efforts to prevent pandemics. WHO also has a mandate in Article 10 to seek verification from states with respect to unofficial reports of pathogenic microorganisms. States are required to provide timely and transparent information as requested within 24 hours, and to participate in collaborative assessments of the risks presented. Yet China rejected repeated offers of epidemic investigation assistance from WHO in late January (and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in early February), without explanation. The Washington Post concluded in a story on Feb. 26 that China “ was not sending details that WHO officials and other experts expect and need.” While WHO later commended China for its efforts, Mara Pillinger of Georgetown’s O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law concluded that "Beijing’s partial collaboration makes it politically tricky for WHO to publicly contradict” China while still getting at least some useful data from China.

          China’s Legal Responsibility

          While China’s intentional conduct is wrongful, is it unlawful? If so, do other states have a legal remedy? Under Article 1 of the International Law Commission’s 2001

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          sweden kicks out all confuciuous institutes

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          China will stand in the line-of-normal behavior ... after all is said and done.

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          The Coming China Backlash 

           

           

          There is a pent-up volcano of rage against the Chinese regime for its reckless coverup of a devouring pandemic.

           

          “A generation has died in just over two weeks. We’ve never seen anything like this and it just makes you cry, ” lamented a funeral director in northern Italian city of Bergamo, the epicenter of a coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak in recent months. As a testament to the scale of a historic tragedy unfolding at the heart of Europe, the city’s local newspaper, L’Eco di Bergamo, dedicated ten pages to obituaries on March 13. The head of respiratory unit of the city’s Hospital Papa Giovanni XXIII, Dr. Fabiano Di Marco, put it this way: “It’s like a war.” In fact, the Italian armed forces have been reportedly deployed to assist in the burial of countless victims across the country.

           

          In an even more bizarre turn of events, China is now imposing strict restrictions on tourists and citizens returning from Europe and elsewhere. Instead of Beijing’s much-vaunted “One Belt, One Road, ” what the world is confronting a “One Belt, One Plague” reality across the Eurasian landmass, stretching from China’s east coast to the Caspian Sea and the Mediterranean, if not the North Sea. The question, therefore is: What’s next?

           

          With clear evidence of systematic cover up by Chinese authorities in the early stages of the emerging pandemic, a growing number of people around the world are seeking criminal accountability. A recent expose by the Associated Press, based on internal Chinese documents, shows that for almost an entire week in mid-January Beijing withheld information even when the true extent of the pandemic threat became crystal clear.

           

          In a telltale of things to come, one group in Dallas is suing the Chinese government for $20 trillion in damages. In a recent report, titled “Coronavirus Compensation?, ” Britain’s conservative think tank The Henry Jackson Society raised the possibility of a £3.2 trillion lawsuit against China on ten possible legal avenues, including the violation of International Health Regulations. Meanwhile, Germany’s largest paper Bild sent a symbolic invoice of €149 billion to China for damages caused to the European country.

           

          The newspaper’s editor-in-chief Julian Reichelt lashed out at China’s President Xi Jinping, stating: “You, your government and your scientists had to know long ago that coronavirus is highly infectious, but you left the 3/7 world in the dark about it. Your top experts didn’t respond when Western researchers asked to know what was going on in Wuhan. You were too proud and too nationalistic to tell the truth, which you felt was a national disgrace.”

           

          Always eager to deflect accountability, the Communist Regime in Beijing seems to have anticipated the gathering storm of the greatest torrent of anti-China sentiments in recent memory by launching its own counteroffensive, including the bizarre claim that the contagion is an American biowarfare conspiracy. We don’t know what the exact trajectory of the pandemic will be, given the differential levels of responses by a complex array of institutions around the world. But what’s clear is that, geopolitically speaking, this is going to get very ugly in coming months and even years to come.

           

          The New Chernobyl

          “I have seen the Future and it works, ” declared the muckraker American journalist Lincoln Steffens following an exuberant visit to the Soviet Union on the eve of World War I. Overwhelmed by the grandeur of Stalinist utopian projects, Western visitors, who were largely and carefully confined to the Potemkin Villages, couldn’t resist elegiac reviews of the most selfconscious ideological project of the twentieth century. 

           

          Over the next decades, however, the rotten core of the Lenist-Marxist system became crystal clear. Politically, the Soviet Union’s invasion of Hungary, and later brutal suppression of the “Prague Spring” in Czechoslovakia, heavily undermined its supposed commitment to the freedom and independence of smaller nations. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn dealt a fatal blow to the Soviet’s claims of moral ascendancy by exposing the indubitably bankrupt dystopian reality in Russia’s peripheries, above all the Gulags in the vast Siberian wastelands.

           

          Economically, came the Great Stagnation, most apparent during the Brezhnev years, but rooted in white elephant projects such as the Trans-Siberia Railway plan, not to mention prohibitively unsustainable defense spending reaching above 60 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in mid-1940s and settling at around 20 percent until the twilight years of Cold War. The Chernobyl disaster, however, crystallized simmering worries about the fundamental integrity of the Soviet system of social organization.

           

          Not long after the nuclear disaster, which threatened tens of millions in north-eastern Europe and beyond, the world entered Fukyama’s “End of History” , as the Soviet project slid into the dustbin of history as the last great ideological rival to Western civilizational project.

           

          The coronavirus pandemic is China’s version of Chernobyl, though more ambiguously and more destructively. On the surface, China is no Soviet Union. It’s integral to the global economy, responsible for almost a third of global GDP growth in recent years. In many ways, it’s immanent to the functioning of universal capitalism. It’s bureaucracy, one of the world’s oldest, has been hailed for its emphasis on competence and dynamism, most famously by venture capitalist Eric Li. Unlike the Soviet’s largely isolated and extractive economy, China is the world’s factory and increasingly a dominant player in cutting-edge industries, including artificial intelligence.

           

          So impressed are some by China’s strides in new-generation technologies that the Israeli historian Yuval Noah Harrari has postulated the dominance of digital authoritarianism in the twenty-first century in contrast to the decisive victory of the West’s Hayekian spontaneous organization in the preceding century. China is rich, prosperous and technologically advanced in ways the Soviet Union never war, or could ever become. As progressive thinkers such as Perry Anderson have pointed out, systemic dynamism was central to the Chinese communist revolution in ways its Russian counterpart never was. Others would argue almost ontologically, namely that China is just so vast, dynamic and complex that it remains largely unknown, including to its own ruling elite.

           

          World War C

          Throughout the first two decades of the post–Cold War period, China opportunistically sailed on the crest of American-led economic globalization. The upshot of this seemingly symbiotic Sino-Western dynamic was what Joshua Cooper-Ramo famously termed as the “Beijing Consensus”: namely, a post-ideological commitment to mercantilist “win-win” intercourse with the world, especially the post-colonial realm. It was not until the tale end of the Hu Jintao administration, which coincided with the Great Recession, that the we began to see a new assertiveness in Beijing, as the inheritor of a millennia-old imperial tradition began to carve out its own global Empire on the cheap. Instead of an “end of history” , what we soon got was President Xi Jinping’s, the world’s most powerful strongman, “Chinese Dream” and hopes for a “Great Rejuvenation” of the one of the world’s oldest empires-in-disguise.

           

          Upon closer examination, China is the Soviet Union, but in a very specific and consequential way. Since the ascent of Xi, the country has appropriated Maoist politics with disturbing consequences for systemic stability. In particular, the massive purge of rivals, ostensibly on corruption charges, has unleashed a tsunami of fear and trembling, which has incentivized cover up and sycophancy like never before.

           

          In the words of China expert Minxin Pei, “pathological secrecy hobbles the authorities’ capacity to respond quickly to epidemics, ” because “[t]o maintain its authority, the Communist Party of China must keep the public convinced that everything is going according to plan. That means carrying out systemic cover-ups of scandals and deficiencies that may reflect poorly upon the CPC’s leadership, instead of doing what is necessary to respond.” This may explain the recurrence of epidemics in China, mainly thanks to reckless failure to rein in illegal and highly liberalized wildlife trade at home.

           

          Crucially, China-based investigative journalists at Caixin Global have revealed that scientists were instructed to destroy the evidence of a new SARS-like virus almost three month ago—to the detriment of the whole world. As a Wuhan based journalist lamented, “Everyone must understand, first of all, that this epidemic was allowed to spread for a period of more than forty days before . . . any decisive action taken.”

           

          To put the crisis into context, the Wuhan journalist explains, echoing Pei’s argument, “the main efforts undertaken by the leadership, and by provincial and city governments in particular…were focused mostly not on the containment of the epidemic itself, but on the containment and suppression of information about the disease.” Thus, the widespread outrage and calls for press freedom across China following the death of LiWenliang, one of the “brave eight” heroes, who exposed the true nature of the epidemic threat last year.

           

          President Donald Trump has come under repeated attacks for using the term “Chinese Virus, ” instead of the politically correct coronavirus. What his critics, who correctly warn against fanning the flames of anti-Asian xenophobia, often overlook is that the pandemic is largely a responsibility of the Chinese authorities, especially in Wuhan. It’s not racist to point out the culpability of the ruling regime, in as much as we should stand in solidarity with ordinary Chinese people, who are as much, if not greater, victims of the contemporary system of repression.

           

          In Albert Camus’ The Plague, the protagonist helplessly laments, “I have no idea what's awaiting me, or what will happen when this all ends. For the moment I know this: there are sick people and they need curing.” But the world is also angry, and there is a pent-up volcano of rage against the Chinese regime for its reckless coverup of a devouring pandemic. Trump’s aggressive rhetoric and trade wars against China may seem a mild version of what’s to come, no matter who wins this November’s elections.

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          Enough! Clearly China has nothing to hide.

           

          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/world/coronavirus-world-tracker.html

           

          The E.U., pressured by Beijing, watered down a report on China’s disinformation.

          Bowing to pressure from Beijing, the European Union this week softened criticism of China in a report on disinformation about the coronavirus pandemic, The New York Times has learned.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-china-idUSKCN2290Z6

           

          Australia last week called for all members of the World Health Organization (WHO) to support an independent review into the origins and spread of the coronavirus, and is lobbying world leaders.

          China’s foreign ministry has attacked the proposal.

          “Maybe the ordinary people will say ‘Why should we drink Australian wine? Eat Australian beef?” Chinese ambassador to Australia, Cheng said in the interview published on the front page of The Australian Financial Review.

          Cheng said it was possible that tourists may have “second thoughts” about visiting Australia.

          “The parents of the students would also think ... whether this is the best place to send their kids,” he added.

          After energy exports, education and tourism are Australia’s biggest export industries, with China the largest market.

          icnif77:

          'Add-it': One needs Vnp to open NYT, Reuters, SCMP in China ... That's why I c&p whole article from SCMP...

           

          A to Chino ambassador: "Stuff your tourists anywhere you want!"

          I know, I could never be a diplomat.

           

          I read about that EU report and Chinese objections, but apparently Bruxelles didn't give up and changed the report.

          I wasn't really paying attention, I just read a title on Yahoo-gle News ... I think, there was an article on Zero that EU didn't change the report. I'll look into it ...

          Now, if EU changed the report, there will be backhand coming toward China very soon, I am sure. That's diplomacy.

          Remember, China will not get scot free out of this last virus manure. MFs!

          "Add-it": I found SCMP article about it ... and at first look, EU toned down report on Chino-Civd-19 'cause China could withhold delivery of medical supplies in revenge .."

          China is manufacturing powerhouse of the world, so it's better to be a bit tactful until 'all ducks are in the row ...'

          I'll copy SMCP article ...

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          There seems to be some veiled threats about economic punishment being applied along with demands for effusive public gratitude for buying faulty PPEs and test kits too.

          The economic threats are hollow. Everyone's economy is screwed at the moment, China's more than most. China will be desperate for customers to keep people in jobs. The economic leverage they had is evaporating quickly. And is looks like other countries including ASEAN member countries are willing to suffer a hit to make a point. There is going to be tantrums and rounds of strong condemnation when it becomes obvious that the routine bullying thug tactics aren't working so well anymore.

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          Another article on the same topic from Business Insider, i.e. no Vnp needed ... with report what was redacted from the original report ...

           

          https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-eu-rewrote-coronavirus-disinformation-report-china-pressure-covid-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

          Dutch PM issued complaint on redaction of original report ...

           

          " ... The Dutch MEP warns in his letter that if the EU had bowed to pressure from China, it "would cause damage to the democratic process in the EU."

          " ... A spokesperson for the EEAS categorically denied that it had tweaked its report after foreign pressure, telling Politico "the publications of the EEAS are categorically independent. We have never bowed to any alleged external political pressure. This includes also our latest snapshot overview on disinfo trends."

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          https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3081564/eu-toned-down-...

           

          EU toned down report on Chinese disinformation after Beijing threatened ‘repercussions’, diplomatic sources say

          *Sources tell South China Morning Post that references to Beijing’s efforts to deflect blame for the Covid-19 outbreak were removed due to fears it would withhold medical supplies in revenge

          *Initial version accused China of running ‘global disinformation campaign’ and used ‘covert and overt’ tactics

          Published: 9:30pm, 25 Apr, 2020

           

          The European Union toned down part of a report about Chinese state-backed disinformation because it feared Beijing would retaliate by withholding medical supplies, diplomatic sources have said.

          The initial version of the report, seen by the South China Morning Post, described China as running a “global disinformation campaign” to deflect blame for the coronavirus outbreak using “both overt and covert tactics”.

          Post has learnt that this section was removed after Beijing intervened and warned EU diplomats based in China there would be unspecified repercussions.

          EU diplomats were worried that this would “strain” relations and make it “more difficult to get medical supplies” that are desperately needed in Europe’s fight against Covid-19, according to a source

          This series of events highlights both China’s concern over the way its handling of the pandemic is seen abroad, but also its ability to sway foreign governments – even those as powerful as the EU – because of its status as the key exporter of strategic products.

          The report in question was a regular update produced by the EU’s disinformation team, which is embedded in the bloc’s diplomatic unit, the European External Action Service (EEAS).

           

          The team was originally set up to monitor suspected Russian disinformation and propaganda, but last year expanded its remit to China.

           

          Recently it helped counteract Chinese propaganda highlighting the country’s role in providing medical supplies to some of the worst affected countries such as Italy and Spain. Brussels responded by pointing out that France and Germany combined had provided more masks to Italy than China.

           

          In its last published report, released on April 1, the disinformation team said China’s “state media and government officials promote not proven theories about the origin of Covid-19”, adding that Chinese coverage was highlighting “displays of gratitude by some European leaders in response to Chinese aid” 

          It remains unclear how Chinese diplomats got hold of the report before it was published.

           

          According to Reuters, Yang Xiaoguang, a counsellor of the European department of China’s foreign ministry, met EU diplomats in Beijing to discuss their concerns.

          These diplomats then conveyed the Chinese officials’ remarks to their colleagues in Brussels, the report said.

           

          Meanwhile, The New York Times reported that Esther Osorio, a communications adviser to Josep Borrell, the head of the EU diplomatic service, personally intervened to delay the release of the initial report.

          She reportedly asked analysts to revise the document to focus less explicitly on China and Russia to avoid accusations of bias, noting “heavy pushback” from Beijing, despite objections from some members of the team.

          The EEAS denied it succumbed to pressure from Beijing. “We have never bowed to any alleged external political pressure,” said EU Commission foreign affairs spokeswoman Virginie Battu-Henriksson.

          She added that the report “presents the continued use of conspiracy narratives and disinformation from various official and state-backed sources, including Russia and China”.

           

          The original report said that European analysts had found a “continued and coordinated push by official Chinese sources to deflect any blame.”

          But the updated version says: “We see a continued and coordinated push by some actors, including Chinese sources, to deflect any blame.”

          China’s ambassador to the EU, Zhang Ming, still complained about the toned down version of the report.

          On Friday he told an online event organised by the Friends of Europe think tank: “Disinformation is an enemy for all of us and it should be addressed by all of us.

          “From the very beginning, China has suffered a lot from disinformation. We would do better to forget the politics now.”

          Reinhard Bütikofer, who chairs the European Parliament’s China delegation, called the claims “a little bit overblown”, saying the EU report had managed to include the key findings about Chinese disinformation campaigns.

          “If you are picking a fight with the propaganda apparatus of the Chinese Communist Party, you should be prudent about it, choose your words right and stand your ground,” said Bütikofer.

           

           

           

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          https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-china-cracks-down-on-questions-over-source-of-virus/news-story/f015abb5171742630e7fb7c6109994e6

           

          Coronavirus: China cracks down on questions over source of virus

           

          As thoughts in many countries from Australia to the US and Europe turn to what life might look like after lockdown, China is cracking down on those who dare to criticise the government’s approach.

          On Monday, three Beijing-based internet activists disappeared and are believed to be detained by police for archiving censored coronavirus news stories online, according to a relative.

          Chen Mei, Cai Wei and his girlfriend surnamed Tang — who contributed to the crowdsourced project on the software development platform GitHub — went missing on April 19, according to Chen’s brother Chen Kun.

          The volunteer-driven project, named Terminus2049, preserved articles that were blocked or removed from mainland news outlets and social media by China’s aggressive online censorship.

          Two of the volunteers, Cai and Tang, were charged with “picking quarrels and provoking trouble” and are currently under “residential surveillance at a designated location”, according to a notice from Beijing’s Chaoyang District police received by their families, and seen by AFP.

          Chen Kun said that he is still waiting on official confirmation from Chaoyang police that his younger brother, aged 26, has been detained.

          “I understand that Cai and Tang disappeared around the same time as Chen Mei,” Chen said.

          “Given that both Chen and Cai were contributors to the Terminus2049 project, we suspect their disappearance was related and relevant to the project.”

           

          WHAT PROJECT?

          The online project included many sensitive coronavirus stories published in recent months, such as personal narratives by Wuhan citizens and an infamous interview with Wuhan Central Hospital doctor Ai Fen, one of the earliest virus whistleblowers.

          The article, published by “People” magazine in March, was widely circulated by Chinese netizens in a number of languages and formats — including Morse code — to evade censorship after it was abruptly pulled from the internet.

          As China tries to control the domestic narrative surrounding the chaotic initial months of the outbreak, similar crowdsourced initiatives have flourished on GitHub, which is used by an increasing number of tech-savvy Chinese as a last frontier against ever-tightening internet censorship.

          Owned by Microsoft, the US-based website remains accessible in China although the Terminus2049 page is blocked.

          News of the Terminus2049 trio’s disappearance made a stir online in Chinese activist circles.

          “What quarrels were they picking, and what troubles were they provoking? Show me legal proof,” said the outspoken Tsinghua University sociology professor Guo Yuhua on Twitter Sunday, referring to Cai and Tang’s charges.

          “Picking quarrels and provoking trouble” is a vaguely defined charge often used by Chinese authorities to target activists and dissidents, which carries a prison sentence of up to five years.

          The administrators of 2019nCoVMemory — another GitHub coronavirus archive — made the “protective” move to restrict access to its site to members only, according to an email sent to subscribers that was circulated on Weibo.

          Chaoyang Public Security Bureau and the administrators of 2019nCoVMemory have not responded to requests for comment.

          It comes as China is facing claims of threatening its international counterparts as the world’s attention turns to the source of the virus.

          Last week, EU diplomats leaked reports that a foreign policy document noting that China had contributed to spreading disinformation about the virus was watered down after pressure from Chinese officials.

          An EU spokeswoman declined to comment, however China’s foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said the country is the “victim of disinformation not an initiator.”

           

          Meanwhile, China’s ambassador to Australia has warned demands for an investigation into the spread of the coronavirus could lead to a boycott of Chinese tourists from Australian shores.

          Australia has joined the US in calling for a thorough investigation of how the virus spread from a local breakout to a global pandemic that forced billions into isolation and caused the global economy to tank.

          In a thinly veiled threat, China’s ambassador to Australia Cheng Jingye warned the push for an independent inquest into the origins of the outbreak was “dangerous”.

          “The Chinese public is frustrated, dismayed and disappointed with what Australia is doing now,” he claimed in an interview with the Australian Financial Review published on Sunday.

          “If the mood is going from bad to worse, people would think ‘why should we go to such a country that is not so friendly to China?’ The tourists may have second thoughts,” he added.

          “It is up to the people to decide. Maybe the ordinary people will say ‘Why should we drink Australian wine? Eat Australian beef?’”

          Cheng also threatened the flow of Chinese students to Australian universities, a key source of revenue that is already under threat from pandemic travel restrictions.

          “The parents of the students would also think whether this place which they found is not so friendly, even hostile, whether this is the best place to send their kids here,” he said.

          He also blamed Australia for following the US lead.

          “Some guys are attempting to blame China for their problems and deflect the attention,” he said.

          “It’s a kind of pandering to the assertions that are made by some forces in Washington.” 

           

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          https://news.yahoo.com/first-covid-19-lawsuit-filed-154622597.html

           

           First Covid-19 lawsuit filed against Chinese government in latest sign of bubbling unrest

           

          When Zhang Hai checked his father into a hospital in Wuhan mid-January, he had no idea a novel coronavirus was sweeping through the city. 

          Chinese authorities had yet to sound the alarm, despite mounting evidence the virus was fatal and transmitting quickly – at least two were dead, and infections had spread abroad. But police pressured doctors to stay silent, and hospitals wouldn’t allow extra protective gear, even as medical staff fell ill.

          So Mr Zhang never imagined his father, a 76-year-old veteran, would be infected with Covid-19 at the hospital while having a thigh fracture repaired, and die within a week.

          “If the government didn’t cover up the disease in the early stages, my father wouldn’t have died,” Mr Zhang, 50, told the Telegraph. “I am furious... so many people lost their lives during this pandemic. What they did amounts to murder.”

          On Wednesday, Mr Zhang filed the first lawsuit in China against the government that seeks restitution for its cover-up of the pandemic, according to lawyers and documents reviewed by the Telegraph.

           

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