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Q: Where you near the Tianjin Blast?

We in Foregin Land are getting some info and seeing some of the pictures there must be hundreds of dead

not just the handfull reported

Hope those of you that were there and your families are safe and well

best regards

 

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Who else figures it was some guy who tossed his cigarette butt?

DrMonkey:

Or water on some compound that ignite on contact with water... That's an old classic of industrial accident.

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There are rumors that the firefighters used water to tet and put out a small fire and that cause the explosion.

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Doubt if we will ever know the whole story

 

It was reported on Australian News that Chinese government has brought in Nuclear experts to investigate

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@Lord_handsome: 'that's a fact, not rumor!'

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Not a rumor.And they are actually defending the practice.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/china-investigates-cause-blasts-tianjin-port-firms-assess-005002970--finance.html

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Wow.  Yeah, I seen an article (news story) yesterday where they were showing some sort of chemical compound igniting upon contact w/ H2O.  

And read about there recently being some new blasts/fires.  

I guess you guys have seen the footage of the actual initial fire then subsequent blast ! If you haven't seen it, take steps to do so.   All I could say after seeing it was 'gotdamn'!

 

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I live in the city of Tianjin. There is a weird colour smog and a funny smell in the air this morning. I hope I am just being paranoid but my boss told all her employees last night that they have to close their windows (didn't give us a day off thought)

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Damn

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One Pakistani student was injured critically in the explosion. He is recovering now..

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That's so terrible .

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Who else figures it was some guy who tossed his cigarette butt?

DrMonkey:

Or water on some compound that ignite on contact with water... That's an old classic of industrial accident.

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There are rumors that the firefighters used water to tet and put out a small fire and that cause the explosion.

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Doubt if we will ever know the whole story

 

It was reported on Australian News that Chinese government has brought in Nuclear experts to investigate

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@Lord_handsome: 'that's a fact, not rumor!'

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Not a rumor.And they are actually defending the practice.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/china-investigates-cause-blasts-tianjin-port-firms-assess-005002970--finance.html

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Wow.  Yeah, I seen an article (news story) yesterday where they were showing some sort of chemical compound igniting upon contact w/ H2O.  

And read about there recently being some new blasts/fires.  

I guess you guys have seen the footage of the actual initial fire then subsequent blast ! If you haven't seen it, take steps to do so.   All I could say after seeing it was 'gotdamn'!

 

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Concerned departments are doing a remarkable job at keeping the casualties count as low as possible.

Whatever it takes.

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I'm near '0H', so here's their report on Tianjin accident:

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-14/china-scrambles-hide-toxic-fall...

 

Two days after an "apocalyptic" explosion in the port city of Tianjin killed at least 50 people and vaporized a bit of excess auto inventory, Chinese officials are struggling to explain what happened and reassure a nervous public. 

The blast - footage of which is reminiscent of a nuclear detonation - likely stemmed from what The New York times called a "witches brew" of toxic chemicals warehoused in the industrial zone. That has residents on edge, as many wonder if the air is safe to breathe. Here’s The Times:

  

They wondered if even the air was safe because of the smoke, still billowing hours later from vestiges of the inferno, which destroyed an industrial zone near the port. Many people wore masks.

 

“Right now, we don’t know anything,” said Sun Meirong, 52, an office cleaner who descended 13 flights of stairs with her 1-year-old grandson after the explosions blew in her apartment windows and front door.

 

Questions loomed over the precise reasons the chemicals had ignited, detonating in frightening fireballs that registered on earthquake scales, engulfed hundreds of new cars awaiting export and shattered windows in high-rises a mile away.

 

At least one chemical known to have been stockpiled at the site, calcium carbide, can emit flammable gases when it becomes wet. Some outside experts speculated that firefighters, in their effort to douse the flames, may have inadvertently contributed to the explosions.

 

“If enough water gets in there, calcium carbide is going to very quickly decompose,” said Chris Weber, president and chief executive of Dr. Hazmat Inc., a hazardous-chemical consulting concern in Longmont, Colo. “The most likely and most violent reaction would be the calcium carbide.”

 

On Thursday afternoon, the site still smoldered as Tianjin officials, unsure about the nature of the chemicals, let the blaze extinguish on its own.

 

According to the Tianjin Tanggu Environmental Monitoring Station,calcium carbide was one of several toxic industrial chemicals stored by the company. The others included sodium cyanide, which can produce hydrogen cyanide, a volatile and flammable liquid; and toluene diisocyanate, which can also react violently in the presence of water.

 

In a statement on Thursday, Greenpeace warned that the chemicals threatened human health. It said that sodium cyanide, used in mining, is especially toxic, while toluene diisocyanate, used to make polyurethane products, is a carcinogen.

 

With rain forecast for Friday, Greenpeace also warned about the danger of airborne pollutants seeping into groundwater.

Even Chinese media admits that determining exactly what was stored at Tianjin and thus what may or may not now be in the air and water is at this point largely impossible. Via Xinhua

  

The dangerous chemicals stored in the warehouses that exploded on Wednesday night in Tianjin Port can not be determined at the moment,authorities said at a press conference on Friday.

 

Gao Huaiyou, deputy director of Tianjin's work safety watchdog, cited major discrepancies between the accounts of company management and customs, and damage to the company's office as reasons they are unable to identify the chemicals.

And while it's apparently too early for China to order that the media stop reporting anything negative about the explosion in Tianjin just as they did about last month's explosion in equity markets, it does look like efforts to "clean up" the mess (in a literary sense) have begun. From People's Daily:

  

Authorities tasked with marine monitoring announced there were no hazardous chemicals detected in waters off the blast site in north China's port city Tianjin on Friday. 

 

A statement from the State Oceanic Administration (SOA) said major measurement of seawater composition did not show any anomaly compared with historical records. 

 

Hazardous materials such as cyanide and volatile phenol were not detected, while the variety of zooplankton was not affected either, it added. 

 

The results were made after 177 seawater samples were taken by local marine monitors in Tianjin. The SOA said it will update seawater status if major changes are found.

One would certainly think that any endeavor to determine if chemicals from the warehouses had leaked into the ocean would be complicated by the fact that authorities aren't yet sure what chemicals they're trying to detect, but in any event, we certainnly imagine that the "fallout" (both literally and figuratively) from Wednesday's disaster will be difficult to cover up and may show up in a few very unpredictable places.

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Really sad to see what happened in Tianjin. Regardless of your feelings on China and it's culture, a lot of innocent people died, and many more were hurt.

 

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