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Q: Anyone hear about the missing plane to Beijing?

Not a great start to the month in current affairs, last weekend the tragic event which took place in Kunming’s train station and now breaking news that a flight from Kuala Lumpur going to Beijing has vanished without a trace with 239 people on board, the outcome doesn’t look great but still fingers crossed for some kind of miracle.

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The Wall Street Journal reported that the plane flew for 4 hours after it disappeared from the radar screen. That means the pilot turned off the transponder, or someone in the cockpit turned off the transponder.

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Guess what? The US now says a satellite kept receiving signals from the plane four hours. India has now started search operations in the Indian Ocean. The mystery deepens.

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I seriously feel like this is an episode of Lost...I can't take this anymore...

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This is exactly what my sister said! But in our modern world of technology and stuff how is it even possible that the plane is missing?? so sad

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Exclusive: Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane deliberately flown way off course - sources

 

Military radar data suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course, heightening suspicions of foul play among investigators, sources told Reuters on Friday.

Analysis of the Malaysia data suggests the plane, with 239 people on board, diverted from its intended northeast route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and flew west instead, using airline flight corridors normally employed for routes to the Middle East and Europe, said sources familiar with investigations into the Boeing 777's disappearance.

In one of the most baffling mysteries in modern aviation, no trace of the plane nor any sign of wreckage has been found despite a search by the navies and military aircraft of more than a dozen countries.

The fact that the aircraft - if it was MH370 - had lost contact with air traffic control and was invisible to civilian radar suggested someone on board had turned off its communication systems, the first two sources said.

The military track suggests it then turned sharply westwards, heading towards a waypoint called "Vampi", northeast of Indonesia's Aceh province and a navigational point used for planes following route N571 to the Middle East.

From there, the plot indicates the plane flew towards a waypoint called "Gival", south of the Thai island of Phuket, and was last plotted heading northwest towards another waypoint called "Igrex", on route P628 that would take it over the Andaman Islands and which carriers use to fly towards Europe.

The time was then 2:15 a.m. That is the same time given by the air force chief on Wednesday, who gave no information on that plane's possible direction.

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Exclusive: Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane deliberately flown way off course - sources

 

 

POSSIBLE SABOTAGE OR HIJACK

"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.

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The missing MH370...

Isn't it quite obvious that someone is hiding something. And what "they" are hiding is because "they" also are not yet sure about it are WORMHOLES. Have a read at these NASA articles:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/03/08/nasa-discovers-hidden-por...

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/29jun_hiddenpo...

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html

They have already proven that there are magnetic portals or wormholes on Earth going to the Sun or who knows where in the universe. In the article written on March 2013 it said that NASA will conduct experiments on 2014. What a coincidence that flight MH370 got lost in 2014. The US is afraid it will be blamed for the plane's disappearance because of the experiments.

Occams Razor, the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one, wormholes exist, the plane went through a wormhole! They do not know where the plane is, no contact, phones ringing but no answer, the plane just vanished?! It went through a wormhole! Mystery solved!

Please check up on this story, everyone is looking in the wrong direction, or everyone is being directed in the wrong direction! And please, so what if the public knew there are wormholes?! I think its about time we all knew that we are not alone in the universe and that we can travel in space and time. Maybe its all better for mankind to stop all the fighting and all. When was the last time something got invented like flight? The public is ready for a major event, we've watched so much scifi that we know it's coming. The world is ready for what's there in the universe.

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I think you're confusing a thing or two... The NASA articles you are referring to are so-called 'Magnetic Portals'. The Sun acts like a big magnet, the Earth too, and at some precise points, their magnetic influences cancel each other. Those points are called in these short article "portal". It sounds fancy, but it's not quite the magical thing you think it is. Those points are far far from Earth surface, and no worries, they don't teleport anything. They tend to act as a channel for charged particles (because both Solar and Earth magnetic influence are canceled, they can just sneak-in), so that's why there's a probe sent there, it looks interesting : lots of particles to look at. The probe is *measuring* things, it does do anything fancy. With the embedded energy supply of a small probe like that, it can't do much harm anyway.

The wormholes that can teleport things, they are *not* places where magnets cancel each other influences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole
Those wormholes are, for now, complete theoretical speculations, assuming that such a thing as "negative" gravity exists. If "negative" gravity exists, wormhole are possible. But so far, never been observed, and nobody knows how to create negative gravity, apart that it would requires gigantic amounts of energy (gigantic as in "more than the power of a star shinning for millions of years"). People are not even agree on how to define a wormhole, several definitions coexist. Ho, and most of those definition, just by looking at the theoretical properties, makes the wormhole non-traversible. Anyway, the "portals" from the NASA articles and wormholes are very very different beast : magnetic vs gravity, exists and reproducible vs does not exist and can't agree and what they look-like yet.

[PS] I categorically deny all allegations that I'm a Reptilian Illuminati

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The missing MH370...

Isn't it quite obvious that someone is hiding something. And what "they" are hiding is because "they" also are not yet sure about it are WORMHOLES. Have a read at these NASA articles:

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/03/08/nasa-discovers-hidden-por...

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/29jun_hiddenpo...

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html

They have already proven that there are magnetic portals or wormholes on Earth going to the Sun or who knows where in the universe. In the article written on March 2013 it said that NASA will conduct experiments on 2014. What a coincidence that flight MH370 got lost in 2014. The US is afraid it will be blamed for the plane's disappearance because of the experiments.

Occams Razor, the simplest explanation tends to be the correct one, wormholes exist, the plane went through a wormhole! They do not know where the plane is, no contact, phones ringing but no answer, the plane just vanished?! It went through a wormhole! Mystery solved!

Please check up on this story, everyone is looking in the wrong direction, or everyone is being directed in the wrong direction! And please, so what if the public knew there are wormholes?! I think its about time we all knew that we are not alone in the universe and that we can travel in space and time. Maybe its all better for mankind to stop all the fighting and all. When was the last time something got invented like flight? The public is ready for a major event, we've watched so much scifi that we know it's coming. The world is ready for what's there in the universe.

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 Investigators conclude jetliner was hijacked, Malaysian official says

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  • AVIATION INVESTIGATORS trying to piece together what happened to the Malaysia Airlines jetliner have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the plane and steered it off course, according to a Malaysian government official.

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It's the Malaysian side that confirmed the hijack. I just hope that it's true this time. Over the last few days, they have been giving conflicting reports. Their agencies are not coordinating their efforts with each of them issuing reports and then later denying or retracting it. If the plane was really hijacked, then there is much hope that all the passengers are alive. However, this puts them in another bad situation as they will certainly be held as hostages for whatever demands the hijackers have. Nevertheless, they will live to see another day. Hope to God all will survive the ordeal.

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That's definitely horrible for the families, not even knowing if their relatives are dead or alive. What kind of hijackers hijacks a plane with so much people in it, and then don't say *anything* about it, no declaration, nothing ?! Hostages have a value only if you believe they are alive.

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Hijacking may or may not have happened, but if it did happen, it was unsuccessful.  Hijackers usually have an agenda and they choose to communicate with someone to fulfill it.  No communication has taken place.  If they diverted the plane,  it needed to land somewhere large enough for a 777.  Again, no recorded landing took place. If that plan flew anywhere near an airport, it would have been spotted.  It's almost certainly crashed in the ocean.

ironman510:

Foxnews news said: terrorist might be practicing a new form of attack. So no ones wants to take credit.

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Finally..  The aliens have decided to make themselves known on Earth, with no room for doubt.  It's about time. 

 

I'm enjoying the look of pure fear on the faces of officials on TV.   Some of them know the truth and everyone's scrambling to hide stuff according to 'the authorities' so no one loses their job or their life.

 

If it's true....good time to be alive folks!!

JanShanghai:

Sorry, didn't mean to disrespect or disregard the lives of people onboard this flight.  I observe that tragedy.  And history is always full of tragedy.

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'Plane was hijacked' teli reports at 4pm.

'Somebody with knowledge of the planes, turned of transpoders and other stuff.'

 

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It's now off the coast of Perth, Australia. According to the latest reports, it's about the maximum range for the plane. Looks like some hijacker took it for a joy ride! 

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I hope they can find it with the people alive. I know maybe that won't happen, but we can hope.

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as terrible as hijacking is, it sure is a lot better than a crash

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The statements regarding the flight on which 239 passengers were flying to Beijing and its mysterious vanishing, start to badly smelling. There are plenty of questions to ask after reading this Yahoo report. 

 

I let you fols read it. 

 

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — The missing Malaysian jetliner was deliberately diverted and continued flying for more than six hours after losing contact with the ground, meaning it could have gone as far northwest as Kazakhstan or into the Indian Ocean's southern reaches, Malaysia's leader said Saturday.

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Prime Minister Najib Razak's statement confirmed days of mounting speculation that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 to Beijing more than a week ago was not accidental. It refocused the investigation into the flight's crew and passengers and underlined the massive task for searchers who already have been scouring vast areas of ocean.

"Clearly the search for MH370 has entered a new phase," Najib said at a televised news conference.

Najib stressed that investigators were looking into all possibilities as to why the Boeing 777 deviated so drastically from its original flight path, saying authorities could not confirm whether it was a hijacking. Earlier Saturday, a Malaysian official said the plane had been hijacked, though he added that no motive had been established and no demands had been made known.

"In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board," Najib told reporters, reading from a written statement but not taking any questions.

Police on Saturday drove into the residential compound where the missing plane's pilot lives in Kuala Lumpur, according a guard and several local reporters who were barred from entering the complex. Authorities have said they will investigate the pilots as part of their probe, but have released no information about how they are progressing.

Malaysia Prime Minister: 'Deliberate Act'  …Play video 'Deliberate Act' Used …

Experts have previously said that whoever disabled the plane's communication systems and then flew the jet must have had a high degree of technical knowledge and flying experience. One possibility they have raised was that one of the pilots wanted to commit suicide.

The plane was carrying 239 people when it departed for an overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing at 12:40 a.m. on March 8. Its communications with civilian air controllers were severed at about 1:20 a.m., and the jet went missing — heralding one of the most puzzling mysteries in modern aviation history.

Investigators now have a high degree of certainty that one of the plane's communications systems — the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System — was disabled before the aircraft reached the east coast of Malaysia, Najib said. Shortly afterward, someone on board then switched off the aircraft's transponder, which communicates with civilian air traffic controllers.

Najib then confirmed that Malaysian air force defense radar picked up traces of the plane turning back westward, crossing over Peninsular Malaysia into the northern stretches of the Strait of Malacca. Authorities previously had said this radar data could not be verified.

"These movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane," Najib said.

View galleryMalaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, center, arrives …Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, center, arrives at the Kuala Lumpur International Airport Mosq …

Although the aircraft was flying virtually blind to air traffic controllers at this point, onboard equipment continued to send pings to satellites.

The prime minister said the last confirmed signal between the plane and a satellite came at 8:11 a.m. — 7 hours and 31 minutes after takeoff. This was more than five hours later than the previous time given by Malaysian authorities as the possible last contact.

Airline officials have said the plane had enough fuel to fly for up to about eight hours.

"The investigations team is making further calculations which will indicate how far the aircraft may have flown after this last point of contact," Najib said.

He said authorities had determined that the plane's last communication with a satellite was in one of two possible "corridors" — a northern one from northern Thailand through to the border of the Central Asian countries Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan, and a southern one from Indonesia to the southern Indian Ocean.

View galleryA man walks out of a room reserved for relatives of …A man walks out of a room reserved for relatives of Chinese passengers aboard missing Malaysia Airli …

Searching in the South China Sea, where the plane first lost contact, has ended, Najib said.

Two-thirds of the plane's 227 passengers were Chinese, and China's government has been under pressure to give relatives firm news of the plane's fate.

In a stinging commentary, the Chinese government's Xinhua News Agency accused Malaysia of dragging its feet in releasing information. Information released by the Malaysian leader is "painfully belated," the commentary said. It said delays had resulted in wasted efforts and strained the nerves of relatives.

"Given today's technology, the delay smacks of either dereliction of duty or reluctance to share information in a full and timely manner," Xinhua said. "That would be intolerable."

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said China had urged Malaysia to release more details about the new search area.

Search for Jet Expands Amid Signs It Flew OnPlay videoSearch for Jet Expands Amid Signs It Flew On

The northern route described by Najib might have taken the plane through a region home to extremist Islamist groups and unstable governments, as well as remote, sparsely populated areas. But the region also hosts U.S. military bases with powerful surveillance capabilities.

Flying south would put the plane over the Indian Ocean, with an average depth of 3,890 meters (12,762 feet) and thousands of kilometers (miles) from the nearest land mass.

Malaysia has faced accusations that it isn't sharing all its information or suspicions about the plane's final movements, which have been the subject of constant media leaks both in Malaysia and the United States. Najib said that he understood the need for families to receive information, but that his government wanted to release only fully corroborated information.

He said that from Day One, the country had been sharing information with international investigators, even when it meant placing "national security concerns" second to the search, a likely reference to its release of military radar data. U.S., British and Malaysian air safety investigators have been on the ground in Malaysia to assist with the investigation.

In the Chinese capital, relatives of passengers who have anxiously awaited news at a hotel near Beijing's airport said they felt deceived at not being told earlier about the plane's last signal. "We are going through a roller coaster, and we feel helpless and powerless," said a woman, who declined to give her name.

Missing Malaysian Plane Search Moves WestPlay videoMissing Malaysian Plane Search Moves West

At least one of the people waiting at the hotel saw a glimmer of hope in word that the plane's disappearance was a deliberate act, rather than a crash. "It's very good," said the woman, who gave only her surname, Wen.

Malaysian police have already said they are looking at the psychological state, family life and connections of pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27. Both have been described as respectable, community-minded men.

Zaharie joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and had more than 18,000 hours of experience. His Facebook page showed an aviation enthusiast who flew remote-controlled aircraft, posting pictures of his collection, which included a lightweight twin-engine helicopter and an amphibious aircraft.

Fariq was contemplating marriage after having just graduated to the cockpit of a Boeing 777. He has drawn scrutiny after the revelation that in 2011, he and another pilot invited two women aboard their aircraft to sit in the cockpit for a flight from Phuket, Thailand, to Kuala Lumpur.

Fourteen countries are involved in the search, which is using 43 ships and 58 aircraft.

A U.S. P-8A Poseidon, the most advanced long-range anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare aircraft in the world, was to arrive over the weekend and sweep parts of the Indian Ocean. It has a nine-member crew and has advanced surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities, the U.S. Defense Department said in a statement.

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Associated Press writers Chris Brummitt and Jim Gomez contributed to this report from Kuala Lumpur. AP writer Didi Tang, video producer Aritz Parra and news assistant Henry Hou contributed from Beijing.

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I know everything, except 'where're the people and plane'

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I am not sure whether this video could be watched, but in case, then it will resume the last news regarding the  mysterious vanishing of the Malaysian airplane and the death of the 239 passengers flying on that plane.

 

As a matter of fact, it is not even sure whether they are dead or not, as there is no material prove of any flight debris as a result of a crash and less of a dead body anywhere in the ocean or wherever the search for the them took place. 

 

Is this an intended and deliberate misinformation? Asking such questions would feed up only theories without no basis. Better stick to to facts: so far they know nothing about it, and they may keep in as a mystery, maybe to cover up serious incompetency and breaches in the security both at the Airports and on the airplane. 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/rival-theories-malaysia-flights-disappearance-2010...

 

Hopefully you can be able to watch it. I can't wait for some revealing of the smoke so we can see where the fire is. 

 

 

 

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That's a last update and it looks according to the yahoo news that Thailand could have shortened the struggle and spell away the mystery around the vanishing in the sky of the Malaysian air plane. 

 

BANGKOK (AP) — Thailand's military said Tuesday that its radar detected a plane that may have been Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 just minutes after the jetliner's communications went down, and that it didn't share the information with Malaysia earlier because it wasn't specifically asked for it.

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A twisting flight path described Tuesday by Thai air force spokesman Air Vice Marshal Montol Suchookorn took the plane to the Strait of Malacca, which is where Malaysian radar tracked Flight 370 early March 8. But Montol said the Thai military doesn't know whether it detected the same plane.

Thailand's failure to quickly share possible information regarding the fate of the plane, and the 239 people aboard it, may not substantially change what Malaysian officials know, but it raises questions about the degree to which some countries are sharing their defense information, even in the name of an urgent and mind-bending aviation mystery.

With only its own radar to go on, it took Malaysia a week to confirm that Flight 370 had entered the strait, an important detail that led it to change its search strategy.

When asked why it took so long to release the information, Montol said, "Because we did not pay any attention to it. The Royal Thai Air Force only looks after any threats against our country, so anything that did not look like a threat to us, we simply look at it without taking actions."

He said the plane never entered Thai airspace and that Malaysia's initial request for information in the early days of the search was not specific.

View galleryMissing Malaysia Airlines jetA man stands in front of a board with messages of hope and support for the passengers of the missing …

"When they asked again and there was new information and assumptions from (Malaysian) Prime Minister Najib Razak, we took a look at our information again," Montol said. "It didn't take long for us to figure out, although it did take some experts to find out about it."

Flight 370 took off from Kuala Lumpur at 12:40 a.m. Malaysian time and its transponder, which allows air traffic controllers to identify and track the airplane, ceased communicating at 1:20 a.m.

Montol said that at 1:28 a.m., Thai military radar "was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane," back toward Kuala Lumpur. The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, a Malaysian city along the Strait of Malacca. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include any data such as the flight number.

He said he didn't know exactly when Thai radar last detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said Flight 370 was last detected by their own military radar at 2:14 a.m.

The search area for the plane initially focused on the South China Sea, where ships and planes spent a week searching. Pings that a satellite detected from the plane hours after its communications went down have led authorities to concentrate instead on two vast arcs — one into central Asia and the other into the Indian Ocean — that together cover an expanse as big as Australia.

Thai officials said radar equipment in southern Thailand detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said the plane might ultimately have passed through northern Thailand, but Thai Air Chief Marshal Prajin Juntong told reporters Tuesday that the country's northern radar did not detect it.

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The Aussies (Austrians?) held a presse conference at lunch time today stating they have found a 25m piece of debris in the water 3200km west of Perth that they suspect could be part of the plane

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/ind...

 

A cautious guess would be that if the data from the pilots home flight simulator is recovered, it will show practicing water landing. 

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Ya, but he also said that they have done this kind of search before and 'found' stuff that later turned out to be nothing. So we just have to wait and see until later today to see what it turns out to be. How fast can they get there?

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yup 25m, give or take some inaccuracy from the satellite imagery, could be a shipping container with brand new iPhones that has fallen of a ship (thousands of shipping containers go in the ocean each year, although I would think most would just sink as they are probably pretty heavy)

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