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Q: Do Chinese graduates expect unrealistic salaries?

Was speaking to a friend of mine who'll be graduating from Beida with a Masters in literature fairly soon. He was telling me how he expected to make at least 13k yuan a month starting salary. He didn't say exactly where he planned to work, and I know for a fact he doesn't have extraordinary guanxi, so wth.

 

Seriously, without serious guanxi, is it really possible, even for a Beida graduate, to make anywhere near that kind of money on a first job?

12 years 5 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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he is dreaming to expect that kind of money. Even if I graduated from Harvard i wont be expecting $100,000 straight up

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New Chinese tutor fresh out of school asked for a starting salary of 40,000RMB a month. BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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I think ALL university graduates have unrealistic expectations these days. I have been in the position to hire teachers for quite some time and the standard "requests" from recent Uni grads are:

- High salary (12k RMB/mo minimum)

- Low hours (12 or less per week)

- Benefits (all holidays known to man free, full International health care packages, fully furnished apartments downtown {yet also close enough to walk to classes}, fully appointed office, blazing fast Internet...

- A personal secretary to handle all the inconveniences such as ordering lunch, paying rent, etc.

All the goodies without having any experience (let alone a degree in the field that they'd be teaching) and a robust sense of entitlement. I Google (speaking of which, I generally reject applicants who ask me questions that they could have researched the answers to themselves) applicants' names to see what they do online. Really eye-opening for some of them.

 

Really, it's not just the Chinese graduates full of self-importance and entitlement...it's universal.

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When we did do interviews tp employ new workers here....most of them were newly graduates from the university and they didn't give much attention to the salary thing........they always said they want to get the experience at the begriing and step by step their career will become more and more promising........so my answer to your question from what i experienced is that i don't think new graduates do really care about the salary at the begining..they mostly care about the experience....

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