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Sign up with Google Sign up with FacebookQ: Do you think China's delighted at the NZ tainted milk scandal?
I can't help but think how convenient it is for China that a NZ infant formula company has been discredited because of bacterial contamination. China was aggressively trying to get consumers to rebuild trust in Chinese milk formula brands, this just comes as a godsend. And look at how the media are ALL OVER the story. It's all state media are reporting about.
11 years 8 weeks ago in Health & Safety - China
It is not only China (also Russia) and also Fortress admit, so don't think too much in conspiracy theories.
Yes, of course they are. It's absolutely inevitable but, as some have already pointed out, it is not really comparable to melamine being added with the specific purpose of raising profit margin in the supply chain. One incident was a regrettable but accidental breakdown of internal quality and safety systems. The other incident was malicious contamination with no regard to public safety.
Of course they aren't getting the idea there's a difference between a bacterial infection and scumbags PURPOSELY tainting milk.
Kaiwen:
To be fair though, this incident is pretty horrendous. For clostridia to survive either viably or as spores, there must have been a serious breakdown of control in the heat processing step. This step would be classified as a critical control point within the process HACCP system. For so much defective product to get through without detection, the process monitoring system must have failed very badly. Given that the product is intended for use within baby formula and ready to drink beverages, the risk category of the product would also be extremely high. The company should have put safeguards in place to ensure the chance of system failure was absolutely minimal. It seems that was not the case.
nevermind:
True, but it still is miles away from killing six babies because you spiked the milk with a poisonous material.
I doubt parents who were paying through the nose for imported baby formula so that they didn't run the risk of feeding their infant melamine are thrilled. I also noticed that Chinese-run news is reporting the story non-stop (just like they do whenever a PRC citizen dies violently anywhere in the world that is not the PRC)--it's a nationalistic control thing. No one reasonably expects this NZ scandal to result in renewed faith in Chinese food products...it's more of a 'nyah, nyah, nyah, a Western company disgraced itself, too!' type of thing.
Seriously? There needs to be a way to delete your own posts on this site. It would make the double-posting less embarrassing.
thedude:
More than one year ago we had that option until "Njord" (a popular poster) decided to delete his entire posting history post by post. Then after the admin took away the delete option he then proceeded to edit the rest of his old posts with the same profanity laced tirade...hence why now we can't even edit after a few days....thanks Njord.
RachelDiD:
What an ass...who has the time to do that? Too bad he ruined my overclicking life.
Australia is on the look out for the tainted milk also. It comes down to disappointment that you can't trust anybody anymore.
angelina8:
Remember a post I once made about business between China and Australia?
The affair is over-hyped. Yes, that milk shouldn't be sold, but it's not such a big deal.
Chinese business people are delighted definitely. The common folk are worried about the children, same as everywhere in world.
Nearly as delighted as a Westerner who hears about food scandals in China. You know, the kind who likes to go on expat websites to spit their venom
nicholasba:
haha, you are westerner too, but too stupid to realize it, you tool.
nicholasba:
and white?Written in their dna?And u dare to call other racist?hahahah
JustinF:
You should point fingers at dictionaries for defining it as such.
nicholasba:
native or inhabitant of the west of any specific region, esp of the western states of the US or of the western hemisphere
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/westerner
that would include also people from asian descent or african born in the countries defined as western countries. There is no assumption that this is connected with the ius sanguinis...
so as I said...
All countries news outlets take delight in the problems of other countries. It makes governments feel good about themselves:
Schadenfreude
NZ is a large exporter of dairy products to China that have always been considered superior to local products. Of course local producers are happy but did you ever think this might actually be an elaborate form of sabotage to win back market share? The reclamation of face?
thedude:
Indeed and the funny thing is that right after I posted this I was watching CCTV news and they were talking about how this will be very good for Chinese companies market share again as it has slumped to less than 50% now.
MondoRosa:
It won't stop me from buying NZ dairy products. If I am in the dairy section of a supermarket and something is made in NZ, then usually I need look no more. I'll take my chances with a NZ product over a Chinese product any day of the week.
I expect this will increase in the future. China wants to change to a domestic consumption economy overnight, not realising that it takes time and strategy. One way to do this (in their minds) is to ban or bad mouth as many western products as possible, and force the sale of inferior domestic products. Or allow Chinese partners to take over western companies.
It is doubtful that an economy that has one of the world's lowest rates of domestic consumption (a mere 35%) can turn around smoothly, even over an extended period of time (a decade or more).
The govn is just as delighted as govns of westerncountries felt when they saw every food scandal in china.so are the local companies.
HOWEVER the most important part is to some parents NZ milk products won't be on their list for a long time.and they never feel delighted about this kind of shit wherever it happened.
I'd say they are loving the sh!t out of this! If stock I owned suddenly surged forth 10% in one day I'd be pretty damn happy!
http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/05/news/china-milk-powder/index.html?iid=HP_River
Snippets:
Chinese dairy companies are basking in a rare moment. This time, they're not the ones under scrutiny for food safety -- it's a New Zealand firm.
Guangzhou-based infant formula maker Biostime and China Modern Dairy both surged by 9.8% in Hong Kong trading. Yashili International closed up 2.5%.