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Q: Do you think just as many food scandals go on in other developing countries?

Or are China's food scandals out of control compared to say India or Thailand?

11 years 8 weeks ago in  Health & Safety - China

 
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No, Other countries have morals. 

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Weird question. Canada has a lot of problems with food quality...samonella, listeria. The only difference is media attention and containment. Put the population factor into the equation. With so many people to feed and so many suppliers in China, you can't expect the same expediency here. Canada's problems stem from (usually) accidental contamination. Here, it's more of a greed/cost-cutting thing. Either way, no country is immune (pun intended). I'm interested, I haven't heard anything about India or Thailand (or Vietnam or Cambodia or...) regarding food scandals.

Kaiwen:

I work with several Thai and Vietnamese producers as well. They have problems but they are not so well publicized.

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Im sure they have their own food safety issues... maybe from poor sanitation. But it seems that here it gets more attention because its usually found out that it was intentional, with pure disregard for the safety and health of the consumers. If they put in as much thought and effort in food safety as they do into cutting corners, things would be much better.

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the question of morals is spot on. do you care enough about your fellow citizen, knowing they will eat the product and it could be a relative of yours eating the product. sadly i dont think people care about others including family. its a dog eat dog world.
new scandal this week , lamb meat was sold and found to be rat meat. tic

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No, I don't think so.

I know so with 100% certainty and has for a considerable period of time.

The difference is the quantity of food produced in China by low quaity, unregistered companies and individual people that inadvertently enters the food supply chain.

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In a word: no. Other developing countries I've visited certainly have issues with food quality, but "just as many"? No. 

 

China's in a league of it's own, I think. 

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An excellent question Miss coffaholic. I could be incorrect, but no I don't think so. Just the sheer volume of constant negative news about the food produced/served here leads me to say no. * A highlight of course is my recent reading of the 16,000 dead pigs..maybe more..floating in the river in Shanghai! Shock * Subsequently, I read about a local Chinese farmer commenting about how Chinese folks had been eating spoiled pork for years!! ** Well gee, nice of you to mention that! :( (Said with sarcasm.)

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Sometimes, though, it is easy to tar the majority with the same brush as the minority. I work in a field where I regularly visit food manufacturers and processors assessing the hygiene and quality standards.

Altogether, around the globe, I have visited many thousands of food production areas. The prominent feature about China is the difference between the standards of the best and the worst. There are many food production facilities in China that would pass any international standard set.

Just last week, I accompanied a European retail chain auditor on visits to factories in Thailand, Vietnam and China. His comments were how much better the Chinese ones were as compared to the others he had seen.

However, at the bottom of the scale, are these numerous and often unidentified back street producers that have no consideration for anyone or anything but themselves and are happy to do literally anything to make a few extra yuan. I, of course, hardly ever get to see such places. The effect, though, is serious because of the dangers of one or two of these bad batches entering the food supply chain and contaminating huge quantities of perfectly sound product.

The challenge is traceability against cost reduction. And the challenge is huge.

The other issue that comes into play is that only the bad gets reported. It is easy to come to some sort of conclusion that the whole system is dirty and corrupt when the only reporting is focussed as such. The companies that put huge emphasis on quality and safety are not reported because it is not news worthy. Thousands of pigs floating down a river is news worthy. Therefore reporting losing its balance.

Don't misinterpret what I am saying. I am not putting up a wholesale defence of food production in China. I know that many bad things do happen. But I also want to make a little case for the good. If everything was so bad, millions of tonnes of food product exported annually from China would be unmarketable. That is not the case.

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If the second biggest economy in the World,can change Fox,Rat,and Cats into Mutton,that's what you get with 5000 years of ?

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