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Q: Entrepreneurs selling on WeChat moments/groups : Have you ever bought something from them ?

Last night a friend showed me his WeChat account which was bombarded with offers of various products in moments. The range was as diverse as leatherware, electronics, cosmetics, mushrooms, teas etc!

 

Have you got any experience of buying from such individual ‘stores’ on WeChat ?

 

Do these private entrepreneurs deserve encouragement as a start-up should ?

 

As there would be no (or minimal I guess) customer protection, should they come under some regulation from authorities ?

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As soon as someone advertises something they get a metaphorical black mark. If it continues i just block seeing their moments.

This sort of advertiser deserves no encouragement. If your fledgling business is so shite that you are desperate enough to need to resort to bombarding your friends with spam pushing your crap, then you need to have a rethink about your business plan and get a job in a factory. Business success isn't in your stars if this is your genius plan.

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As soon as someone advertises something they get a metaphorical black mark. If it continues i just block seeing their moments.

This sort of advertiser deserves no encouragement. If your fledgling business is so shite that you are desperate enough to need to resort to bombarding your friends with spam pushing your crap, then you need to have a rethink about your business plan and get a job in a factory. Business success isn't in your stars if this is your genius plan.

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I've bought some really nice clothes for great prices, my Chinese wife orders fruit, also got some other stuff. It's great sometimes, yeah there might be risks for other wechat biz.

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Everyone seems to be doing this now. Women especially.

I have blocked a few album feeds now. Not because I disagree with what they are doing, but because I am fed up with my wechat wall being an endless stream of adverts for face masks and baby milk.

I am even starting to miss the old days of a year ago, when my wechat was endless photos of what soup people had for lunch.

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It's the modern equivalent of people selling Avon or tupperware to their friends and neighbors.

At least now they don't come knocking on your door when you're curled up on the sofa watching Coronation Street.

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Another problem with wechat maybe. Or maybe it is a good thing. Not sure.

The project I am working on at the moment has a wechat group apparently. That's fine. No problem. Someone asked me to join it on Friday.

Nope. I wont join it.

Company business should be done on company email so it is recorded.

And my wechat account is mine. The company don't pay for it. They don't pay for my phone, so I refuse to have company email on it.

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Thats a good point.. to keep record of company correspondence.

It happens with me too with some work chats needed to be referred at later date. i take a screenshot and email for record, but thats a hassle.

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My company is all about wechat.

 

When I arrive at work, when I leave work, I get a message telling me the time.

Salary notifications, message.

Company emails arrive by wechat.

And eavesdropping on office gossip I now hear that meetings and training will be done on a new app wechat have developed in the near future.

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Selling mushrooms on WeCat? Now, why didn't I think of that.

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This kind of thing is really under your own control. Unfriend people who annoy you by offering things you don't need. Then by all means stop bitching about it as if you were victim of a crime. Sheesh, how can you be so hypersensitive and still live in China? "My WeChat *bombarded* with adverts, boohoo!"

Chinese are business-oriented. They appreciate or at least tolerate others' attempts at making profit. To be fair, I was opposed to such commercialism myself in the past, but I see it from a new perspective now that my wife is making money for our family this way.

In China, nobody masks the reality that life is a cruel rat-race. Pigs are slaughtered in front of children, people are left destitute without compassion, adults get bullied without remorse and people are judged by marketable traits. I'm not saying it's 'honest', but in the West we are accustomed to a certain amount of decorum, just enough to mask the reality that life is a rat-race. We don't like to be reminded of it. It is a value we hold dear, but not normalcy, and cannot be expected outside our culture. To expect such would be chauvinistic.

China is a swimming lesson. You are thrown in the deep end, and you either learn to swim or clamour to get out. It is a test of robustness and adaptability. If you can't even handle some WeChat adverts because they burst your bubble, get out already.

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'hypersensitive' 'can't even handle some WeChat adverts' 'burst your bubble'.

I dont think you have read my post fully or understood it.

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It was in response to some comments, not your Q.

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Thanks, dude. Understood! 

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I ought to respond to the question, not the answers. Buyer beware applies to all transactions, and more so when there is less regulation and recourse. But it applies to seller as well. Last night while I was sleeping, my wige was woken up to a complaint at 3am: an intermediary complained that a buyer had been waiting for a package for over a month now. My wife lay awake for hours communicating with authorities and postal services to track down the problem. Eventually she had the delivery courier on the phone, who comfirmed that the buyer had received and signed for the package in person. Since it was an intermediary's customer, she can't even be angry at the culprit for trying to cheat her and wasting hours of her time. My wife didn't get out of bed until afternoon.

The moral of the story is that Chinese buyers suck. They are impatient, they want personalized photographs before buying, they demand straight-from-factory sell-by dates, they complain easily, they need frequent feedback, etc. Sellers willing to deal with them can make money, but it is not without effort. And the danger of reputation damage lurks at every corner. If we didn't have young kids, we'd both prefer fulltime jobs for steady, limited salary.

DaphneNJ:

What kind of items is she selling?

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Daily necessities. Anything we can reasonably provide from Germany or Holland.

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WhyHowWhen:

I think many Chinese want to sell.. it must be an overcrowded space making the customer spoilt with choices, so they behave as you explained.

Yes, it must require a lot of hardwork, persistence and belief (and these qualities always work in the long run).

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It all goes back to many Chinese having no idea how to put themselves in other people's shoes. Would they want to be hounded at 3am? No. They would probably go apeshit if someone pulled that. I think Chinese, for the most part, have a really bad service mentality. Even in nice hotels, restaurants and stores, the people working there often look they have just sucked on a lemon. They will nickel and dime the customers on petty things. But when they are customers themselves, they can be relentlessly demanding. (Ask any one who works in the tourism industry in the West.)

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coineineagh:

to be fair, 3am in Germany is 9am in China, acceptable office hours. unfortunately, the irregular hours wreak havoc on our daily routines.

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