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Q: Has anyone bought an apartment or house in China?
Do you have to have a Z visa and Residence Permit, or can it be on another type of visa?
I bough an aparment in Guangxi Provincein in late 2013. They look at my Pasport to get the number,never looked the viisa.
A word to the wise.
A friend from England bought a new one locally, listed at 125 sq meters. When he showed it to me I said it looks more like less than 100. We measured each room, and came out at 85 sq meters. He blew a fuse and raised hell, claiming fraud. Th answer was that he was also paying for some of the common areas, like hallways, eleators space, entrance lobby, etc. What a swindle !
HappyExPat:
Scot: The building has 32 floors, 6 apts per floor, for a total of 192 apts. Being extra generous, assume a lobby 15 by 10 meters, or 150 sq meters (it is smaller). That would be a charge of less than 1 sq meter per apt, and understandable and acceptable. But he was charged 45 sq meters extra, and at 6,300 yuan/sq meter, that over 1/4 million kuai extra. This is why I called it a swindle. And by the way, buikder was the Ever..... Group out of Guangzhou.
dom87:
they did also include the walls in the measurement.
As far as I know they measure the outer side of the drawings, not every room.
They are just plain stupid. My apartment is 120m2 but actually less than 70.
Common practice and the locals are too stupid.
Chinese Bodies aehm Measurements (or Meters) are different.
Would call it chinese squaremeter 1m2 = 0,75 chinese m2
expatlife26:
Yeah that's the "net" space calculation. It's not just the lobby it's the hallways, stairwells, grounds etc. Balcony too though which is real. Just every little bit that can add to the price. Or I guess really just allow them to advertise a lower price per m2. The total price would be the same.
I noticed this with my current rental which is billed as an 88m2, 2 bedroom deal. Meausred it out comes to like 64 or something.
I'm not an idiot obviously I looked at it first and decided that whatever # size it was it's big enough for my needs but it's just amazing what % of it isn't real. In the end all it meant was the management fee is 3.5 per m2 instead of 2.8 or something.
But I bet we all have a skewed perception of how big places are. My old place was listed at 100 so I bet it was only 79 or something. But that 79 is what I used as a benchmark for how big 100 is.
Shining_brow:
It's the Chinese men doing the measuring - ins't it?? 
My mate here bought a new apartment, and apparently they did the opposite (sort of). There was this chunk of stuff attached to the wall, which reduced the overall 'space' of the room to technically cut down the actual price - that floor space that it took up was unusable - and therefore, they didn't pay for it (about 1-2sqm).
However, all one needs to do is pound it out, and you've got a bit of extra room in the bedroom!
DaLuRen can be just so damn weird. (well, ok, I can see how that extra 7-10 thousand RMB can come in handy for other things..!
I bough an aparment in Guangxi Provincein in late 2013. They look at my Pasport to get the number,never looked the viisa.
A word to the wise.
A friend from England bought a new one locally, listed at 125 sq meters. When he showed it to me I said it looks more like less than 100. We measured each room, and came out at 85 sq meters. He blew a fuse and raised hell, claiming fraud. Th answer was that he was also paying for some of the common areas, like hallways, eleators space, entrance lobby, etc. What a swindle !
HappyExPat:
Scot: The building has 32 floors, 6 apts per floor, for a total of 192 apts. Being extra generous, assume a lobby 15 by 10 meters, or 150 sq meters (it is smaller). That would be a charge of less than 1 sq meter per apt, and understandable and acceptable. But he was charged 45 sq meters extra, and at 6,300 yuan/sq meter, that over 1/4 million kuai extra. This is why I called it a swindle. And by the way, buikder was the Ever..... Group out of Guangzhou.
dom87:
they did also include the walls in the measurement.
As far as I know they measure the outer side of the drawings, not every room.
They are just plain stupid. My apartment is 120m2 but actually less than 70.
Common practice and the locals are too stupid.
Chinese Bodies aehm Measurements (or Meters) are different.
Would call it chinese squaremeter 1m2 = 0,75 chinese m2
expatlife26:
Yeah that's the "net" space calculation. It's not just the lobby it's the hallways, stairwells, grounds etc. Balcony too though which is real. Just every little bit that can add to the price. Or I guess really just allow them to advertise a lower price per m2. The total price would be the same.
I noticed this with my current rental which is billed as an 88m2, 2 bedroom deal. Meausred it out comes to like 64 or something.
I'm not an idiot obviously I looked at it first and decided that whatever # size it was it's big enough for my needs but it's just amazing what % of it isn't real. In the end all it meant was the management fee is 3.5 per m2 instead of 2.8 or something.
But I bet we all have a skewed perception of how big places are. My old place was listed at 100 so I bet it was only 79 or something. But that 79 is what I used as a benchmark for how big 100 is.
Shining_brow:
It's the Chinese men doing the measuring - ins't it??
My mate here bought a new apartment, and apparently they did the opposite (sort of). There was this chunk of stuff attached to the wall, which reduced the overall 'space' of the room to technically cut down the actual price - that floor space that it took up was unusable - and therefore, they didn't pay for it (about 1-2sqm).
However, all one needs to do is pound it out, and you've got a bit of extra room in the bedroom!
DaLuRen can be just so damn weird. (well, ok, I can see how that extra 7-10 thousand RMB can come in handy for other things..!
I hope you get more than Wu Mao for this post, then maybe you can buy one someday!
