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Q: IF new China foreign teacher Beijing requirements go in effect, will YOU demand a raise?
On September 16th, 2014, the China Daily floated a balloon from unnamed sources suggesting that foreign teachers in Beijing "may" be required to have five years of teaching experience instead of the current two years. If this were to become law, how much of a raise would you ask for, assuming you are working legally with a real university degree and a Z visa? ESL teachers in Japan, Korea, or Singapore with 5 years experience and degrees earn about $30,000 a year by comparison.
30K? Thats your benchmark??? Thats 15K rmb a month. Do you have any idea how many teachers in BJ equal or beat that??
As i teacher i made more than that in my second year of teaching. (In GZ in 2008)
I think you dont need to wait for these new laws to come in. You can ask for a raise now.
laowaigentleman:
You can make 15,000 a month in Beijing with a bachelor's degree and a z visa?
Do you pay for your own accommodation?
mike695ca:
@laowai, i dont live in beijing. But i know people all over the country that make at least that with apartment. In Beijing, 15 with accomodations or 18 without should be easily doable.
mike695ca:
@laowai the cities that i know for a fact people can and do get these salaries: Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Foshan, Shenzhen and Chongqing. I havent been teaching for quite a few years now so im sure others would be able to add to the list.
laowaigentleman:
Thanks, Mike. I am in Shijiazhuang. I am very sure I can't receive that kind of salary, but put it this way, my work certainly generates enough revenue for the company to pay me a similar figure.
I get 10,000 as a basic salary plus 100 for every overtime hour I work (generally I only work about 2 or 3 extra hours - I don't work outside of my contracted school) but I need to pay for my accommodation.
I'm not a certified teacher in my home country, but I have a bachelor's degree, a Z visa and a foreign expert certificate.
I make a bit more but I do mostly tutoring now 3 days a week. Most regular school jobs from the ads I see on line average around 12,000 rmb a month - before taxes. I think a good benchmark would be $30K a year after taxes and a free apartment like the universities already provide andmaybe even a meal card for the cafeteria.
expatlife26:
Wait but here you said you make 35k a month giving tennis lessons and corporate training but you work 6 days a week? Its ALMOST like youre a criminal who just makes things up to suit an individual thread instead of having any sense of continuity. Like how sometimes youre married sometimes youre not. http://answers.echinacities.com/question/how-much-do-you-really-earn-china-these-days
Almost:
Lighten up dude, I only teach tennis during the summer months (when kids are on summer break) and I have recruited quite a few new tutoring students since I made that post more than a month ago.
expatlife26:
But we've established in other posts that you ran the China Trade Commission scam before this and (likely) back in the US the Merchant's Barter Exchange Scam for which you were convicted of fraud.
Maybe this one it looks like i'm the one being a jerk and nitpicking but we all know you're up to no good.
I realize that you have to try to brush off my criticism or say i'm a recruiter or sell TEFLs because this is all about SEO and nothing about having a conversation, but still.
....will YOU demand a raise?
I'd think that if you demanded a raise then they would just simply find someone who was willing to do the job for the existing salary or less. And you are fried squid.
Beijing is is pushing schools to hire through agencies. Agencies can bypass any regulation. Someone high up has shares in ForeignHR.
Almost:
Foreign HR is owned by Eric Liu and my wife's sister used to work there. Eric is someone who supposedly hates the corrupt government so what you say is not likely Ted. If you have names out them here and it can be proven or disproven.
Also, when you say "Beijing" who exactly do you mean? I fully agree with you that most principals of private schools want recruiters so they can collect kickbacks, but in the public schools and universities they are all terrified of Xi's anti-corruption police following the Renmin University scandal and arrests of three dozen deans across China. If they take down deans they will certainly take down principals.
Englteachted:
I said agencies not recruiters. Agencies can hire unqualified teachers and assign them to schools. The biggest school in Beijing had to make their Part timers go to ForeignHR and get their visas through them. Schools, Agencies and Expat working as a teacher (who do not meet the qualifications) are all within the law.
I do not know if it is the same visa, but they are legal. This is actually to drive wages down.
